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re: frick Michael Thomas
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:54 am to southernelite
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:54 am to southernelite
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We have to be careful not to blur the line and abuse the powers of the police, the Guard, and the Armed Forces
The National Guard is controlled by the Governor of each individual State. That Governor can use them as he or she chooses. That Governor will give guidance to the Adjutant General of that state's National Guard. That's what will happen in each state.
As for Federal Troops, the president is somewhat limited in how he can deploy troops domestically because of Posse Comitatus. We have measures in place to restrict the use of the military as police officers on domestic soil. Of course there are exceptions to policy, but you won't see a large scale military police presence throughout our country.
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:55 am to southernelite
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Just saying, as a conservative, the militarization of policing domestically is deeply concerning.
Would you rather law and order or chaos? There is no third option here. You either enforce the laws or you don’t. If you don’t, it emboldens the criminals.
I saw a video last night of cops showing up at a store while looters were grabbing merchandise and running out. A looter dropped a box as he was running and the cops decided not to engage...the looter looks at the cop standing there and shyly goes back and grabs the box, and the cops just watched him run off.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:55 am to Dizz
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That is the million-dollar question right now.
It's actually a multi billion dollar question right now, as I now believe they really think they are going to get monthly reparations checks out of this.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:55 am to terriblegreen
Yes, but if he invokes the insurrection act, then the president will have them all at his full disposal.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:56 am to IAmNERD
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Weren't they out past curfew? Therefore breaking the law and no longer a legitimate protest.
No Response. They cant handle that the curfew was put in place for a reason. And it is breaking the law to be out after it
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:57 am to HT713
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your ancestors, standing on the banks of the boston harbor:
"wow look at those thugs throwing out all that tea. I don't condone this destruction of private property"
And there we have it. Baited into it hook line and sinker.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:58 am to TH03
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There are different groups and blending them all into one is exactly what they want you to think.
Me and you agree on this and have touched on it the last few days. Follow-Up question tho, why would someone innocent and there genuinely there to protest get themselves involved or let these things take place?
We’ve seen cases where they absolutely point it out or even turn them over (see Antifa bricks; see Antifa breaking concrete with hammers being tackled), but why isn’t it more prevalent? I would think it would be
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:58 am to Fun Bunch
oh no I'm so epically owned.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:58 am to Hydrilla Gorilla
if they are protesting peacefully then they should have nothing to worry about.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:00 am to HT713
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oh no I'm so epically owned.
You were. You just don't know it.
I encourage you to use this argument as much as possible until november.
Broadcast your thoughts everywhere to everyone you know.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:01 am to southernelite
Ok. Then I guess we'll just wait for that.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:16 am to Klark Kent
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Me and you agree on this and have touched on it the last few days.
See? We can agree.
I’ll separate this first question because while the answers are similar, they are distinctly different.
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Follow-Up question tho, why would someone innocent and there genuinely there to protest get themselves involved
I think people get involved because of a mixture of frustration/anger/what have you and peer pressure/group dynamics. It’s exactly why these antifa types only have to do so much like break a few windows or leave some conveniently sized bricks on a street corner. These people aren’t the ringleader types so they’ll follow what the group does even if their intent wasn’t to be violent or riot.
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or let these things take place?
This answer is similar in that it’s some group dynamics/groupthink at play, but is more so the bystander effect. Very few people are the “one” who will stand up, especially by themselves and to a violent mob.
The truth is, most people are followers, and that’s exactly why antifa or whoever is disrupting these are so successful. I don’t always quote comic book movies, but the joker is spot on in TDK. Madness is like gravity, all you need is that little push.
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We’ve seen cases where they absolutely point it out or even turn them over (see Antifa bricks; see Antifa breaking concrete with hammers being tackled), but why isn’t it more prevalent? I would think it would be
It’s more prevalent, but gets pushed to the side in favor of the gory shots of stuff burning. You can call it the media pushing an agenda or the media knowing panic sells, etc and I won’t really argue against either line of thinking.
I will say though that there seems to be very little interest in finding out the truth about the rioting subset of these protests. The media is fine saying “bad apples” or “don’t let this ruin the protest” and most of the right is fine saying “all these thugs have ruined their own chance when we gave them the floor to make their argument” so I guess no one really wants to find out the truth.
Kind of rambled on here, but this stuff annoys me.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:23 am to Hydrilla Gorilla
He isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:23 am to TH03
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I will say though that there seems to be very little interest in finding out the truth about the rioting subset of these protests. The media is fine saying “bad apples” or “don’t let this ruin the protest” and most of the right is fine saying “all these thugs have ruined their own chance when we gave them the floor to make their argument” so I guess no one really wants to find out the truth. Kind of rambled on here, but this stuff annoys me.
Nah, I get it.
I’m with you. Regardless of political side, you would think there would be a massive push to find out who’s responsible at every level. Is it localized. Is it a one off. Is there a massive terrorist organization coordinating these? It does no one any favors. Helps anybody. And further rips the country apart. Calling out these anarchists and exposing them ought to be a top priority for everyone.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:30 am to Klark Kent
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Regardless of political side, you would think there would be a massive push to find out who’s responsible at every level.
Am I naive or is it not George Soros? There was chatter three weeks ago that his people were lining up crisis actors. This certainly fits his M.O.
One thing is clear to see from watching this unfold.... Black people aren't the ones instigating the destruction of property or destroying the property for the most part. Young white males in disguise seem to be largely responsible for the chaos and destruction. I assume it's Antifa, but either way, white people are driving the riots.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 11:31 am
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:38 am to Hydrilla Gorilla
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Strength in numbers. The National Guard can’t be everywhere
Where does he live? I bet the national guard isn't there right now...just saying.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:38 am to terriblegreen
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One thing is clear to see from watching this unfold.... Black people aren't the ones instigating the destruction of property or destroying the property for the most part. Young white males in disguise seem to be largely responsible for the chaos and destruction. I assume it's Antifa, but either way, white people are driving the riots. This post was edited on 6/2 at 11:31 am
Nope. There is a TON of video evidence of people of all color rioting and causing destruction. You can’t paint this as one race or another, that’s horseshite
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:39 am to Klark Kent
It’s maddening how this mindset isn’t widespread. Most people are just complacent eating up one of those narratives.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:43 am to TH03
Who was the dude you mentioned on here that was investigating whose really causing all this? I can’t find the post. Something Burke?
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:45 am to Klark Kent
The bad ruin it for all, maybe if these groups would take action against those who are destroying things rather than promote it, they wouldn't have curfew
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