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Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted by blacykaty
Katy, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
480 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:33 pm
I was reading some of the other topics about people wanting to get to the point of never using hydrocarbon based energy again, and wanting to get to wind and solar energy sources.

As I recall, we once were a society of wind and solar. Prior to the 1800's. Who wants to go back to that time? I like my gasoline vehicle and heat from natural gas. Not to mention air conditioning!
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:34 pm to
I go back to that time when I fish from a dock with a cane pole. shite is awesome.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:35 pm to
I was working near a wind farm southwest of Houston not long ago. Someone near it told me they were up for about a year before one of them got hit by lightning and burned down
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7168 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:36 pm to
This thought is just dumb.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68695 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:43 pm to
I say we stick to the liberal idea and just give everyone free wind and solar.


Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28079 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:49 pm to
Green energy kooks also believe in the energy fairy, so sprinkles pixie dust and energy flows.

Or another name for them is educated morons
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85067 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:57 pm to
People don’t tend to live where it’s really windy and sunny all the time. So getting energy from those isolated places to big cities is a real issue… and then you have changing climate. Sometimes the wind just doesn’t blow or it rains. You can’t count on it for baseload.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118854 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:01 pm to
Man's contribution to the carbon cycle on earth is approximately 1/11 the size of nature. But it does cycle and without it we would be dead.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12526 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:07 pm to
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People don’t tend to live where it’s really windy and sunny all the time.
Which is why you see wind and solar farms powering towns like Abilene, San Angelo, etc. There's a solid economic argument that then investment for cogen units, which are more location flexible, get placed near places like Houston.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6816 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:23 pm to
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was reading some of the other topics about people wanting to get to the point of never using hydrocarbon based energy again, and wanting to get to wind and solar energy sources.


people are stupid. I am all for investing in multiple sources of energy. However, it should be in addition to the existing and not a push for replacement. We will be using hydrocarbons forever. we might reduce the consumption for fuel in 20-30 years, but never all of it. This push to stop oil and gas long before we have something suitable to replace the fuel porion of it is stupid and only driving up costs of everything.
Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:24 pm to
You don't sound like the brightest crayon in the box
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:25 pm to
I'm building a workshop in my back yard. Thinking of putting a solar array behind it.

This isn't an environmental stance. I just want to be less reliant on Entergy because they suck at everything they do.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12526 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:33 pm to
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I just want to be less reliant on Entergy because they suck at everything they do.
Unfortunately, Entergy has some of the worst Net Metering in the country. So, unless you use a lot of power during the day it might have a pretty shitty ROI.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39395 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:53 pm to
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I was working near a wind farm southwest of Houston not long ago. Someone near it told me they were up for about a year before one of them got hit by lightning and burned down

You don’t think oil platforms get hit by lightening? Refineries? I really wish we, on the right, would stop with the idiotic criticisms. They undermine the actual criticisms. We are viewed by the majority, in this country, as a bunch of yokels, and it’s because the lowest common denominator drives our arguments.

We actually have common sense on our side. What we need is to start relentlessly pushing meaningful arguments that are actually persuasive.
Posted by ddbnsb
Raised in New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
3315 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68695 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

You don’t think oil platforms get hit by lightening? Refineries? I really wish we, on the right, would stop with the idiotic criticisms. They undermine the actual criticisms. We are viewed by the majority, in this country, as a bunch of yokels, and it’s because the lowest common denominator drives our arguments.

We actually have common sense on our side. What we need is to start relentlessly pushing meaningful arguments that are actually persuasive.


i think the point is these alternative energy isnt very green and it shouldnt be one or the other.




Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6989 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 3:12 pm to
i look forward to the giant, steaming spent lithium and cobalt pits. really gives you that Mad Max vibe
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2103 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 3:33 pm to
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People don’t tend to live where it’s really windy and sunny all the time. So getting energy from those isolated places to big cities is a real issue… and then you have changing climate. Sometimes the wind just doesn’t blow or it rains. You can’t count on it for baseload.


But globally a large percentage of the population lives close to shorelines where they could take advantage of technology that now might be far more cost effective than it was even a decade ago: tidal generation. Tides are pretty consistent at any given location.

Not necessarily on a large scale like, La Rance, but on a micro generation basis similar to what is once again being pursued for the Thames Estuary: Port of London Authority and the Severn: CNBC.



Posted by LazloHollyfeld
Steam Tunnel at UNC-G
Member since Apr 2009
1601 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 3:47 pm to
Industrial scale solar farms make sense on otherwise useless land, i.e. in the desert. It seems idiotic and contrary to the "green movement" to clearcut 1000s of acres of trees or to use prime farm land to install solar panels.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 3:49 pm to
We are so smart now that we are actually devolving ourselves
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