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re: France sorry for the bad things they said during the Iraq war so they’re sending a gift
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:42 pm to BigBobbyStorey
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:42 pm to BigBobbyStorey
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imagine supporting the Iraq war in 2021.
Neocons never apologize.
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:50 pm to RedRifle
Is this not a Babylon bee article?
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:53 pm to RedRifle
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Bull shite. I know we live in this weird world now that is turned on its head. But just a few years ago we understood that we the lone global superpower and we had to face down dictators and evil worldwide. Going to war in Iraq was about sending a message around the world that we would not stand for instability and a destruction of order. It was the right thing to do then and it is still the right thing today. We are the global check against tyranny.
As someone who served in West Baghdad from May 03-March 04,(I turned 22 over there) I can tell you that you are unequivocally full of shite and you should be ashamed of yourself for posting this.
And FWIW, Iraq was in much better shape and much more stable under Saddam. Yes he was a terrible, murderous thug but it doesn't make the first part of my sentence less true.
And like someone asked earlier, how many deployments do you have under your belt and how long did you serve?
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:54 pm to SCLibertarian
As a libertarian you’re right. However, I am finding myself halfway wishing we just went big dick colonial power on the world and told everyone else to fricking stop us.
I mean, we are being blamed/criticized for keeping global sea trade virtually pirate free and flowing. Because America has paid for what is essentially international security everywhere else has prospered. Why shouldn’t we take our pound of flesh?
I mean, we are being blamed/criticized for keeping global sea trade virtually pirate free and flowing. Because America has paid for what is essentially international security everywhere else has prospered. Why shouldn’t we take our pound of flesh?
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:58 pm to RedRifle
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It was the right thing to do then and it is still the right thing today. We are the global check against tyranny.
The United States of America shouldn’t be the world’s police force, and if you really think we should be, I would suggest other means of carrying it out vs thousands upon thousands of American men and women being killed when this country could wipe most countries off the map without a boot hitting the ground.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:59 pm to RedRifle
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Going to war in Iraq was about sending a message around the world that we would not stand for instability and a destruction of order.
The US has caused, both intentional and not, some of the instability and destruction seen in the world the last 70 or so years.
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It was the right thing to do then
Tell that to the soldiers that died or came home broken in some bullshite war. Or tell the Iraqi civilians that “we saved them” even though they are still living in a corrupt, tyrannical country.
Your statements are some war monger’s excuses
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:00 pm to RedRifle
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bullshite. I know we live in this weird world now that is turned on its head. But just a few years ago we understood that we the lone global superpower and we had to face down dictators and evil worldwide. Going to war in Iraq was about sending a message around the world that we would not stand for instability and a destruction of order. It was the right thing to do then and it is still the right thing today. We are the global check against tyranny.
You dumb naive fool. It was not the right thing to do, it made everything worse, and you are a cum-guzzler for believing it.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:01 pm to gizmothepug
One of the few things Trump did right was getting us out of overseas conflicts.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:01 pm to gizmothepug
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I would suggest other means of carrying it out vs thousands upon thousands of American men and women being killed when this country could wipe most countries off the map without a boot hitting the ground.
Being a police force is not the same as being an extermination force. America ran into this after WWII, when we started to cut down on the number of GI’s and ground troops and relying on the nuclear deterrent. What constitutes the use for excessive/nuclear force?
Having a physical presence is better at deterring minor/small scale engagements.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:02 pm to RedRifle
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bullshite. I know we live in this weird world now that is turned on its head. But just a few years ago we understood that we the lone global superpower and we had to face down dictators and evil worldwide. Going to war in Iraq was about sending a message around the world that we would not stand for instability and a destruction of order. It was the right thing to do then and it is still the right thing today. We are the global check against tyranny.
The Middle East has become significantly less stable and more dangerous since we overthrew Saddam. Saddam was an evil piece of shite, but it sure seems like he kept that region in check.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:03 pm to RedRifle
Actually it's a Trojan Horse deal with Trump inside....
WE"RE TAKING BACK WASHINGTON BABY!!!!
WE"RE TAKING BACK WASHINGTON BABY!!!!
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:04 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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We also had no business joining World War 1.
Ehh, between the Lusitania and the Zimmermann Telegram, Germany 1000% brought that upon themselves.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:15 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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However, I am finding myself halfway wishing we just went big dick colonial power on the world and told everyone else to fricking stop us.
Because that never works. It didn't work every other time in human history, and it won't work now. The US doesn't have the will to do old-school imperialism, given that type requires skillful diplomacy, which we don't do any more, or willing native fighters on the ground. The US created a worse-case scenario in the ME for themselves, through myopia. Even with US forces there, Iran was able to build and network with proxies forces and the US couldn't counter it. We effectively cleared their borders for them, as dominating and weakening Iraq was a long-term goal of the Iranian security apparatus, and the Taliban and Iran nearly fought a war in 1999.
People should read about the atomized details about colonial interactions, because they the scale of those endeavors is impossible now, due to population demographics.
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Why shouldn’t we take our pound of flesh?
Americans of a certain class do take their pound of flesh. The sheer demand for US dollars creates a vast amount of wealth, though regular people get pennies in comparison.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:20 pm to VADawg
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Saddam was an evil piece of shite, but it sure seems like he kept that region in check.
Exactly what I said above. The Iranians didn't even frick w/him. They were terrified of him, and rightly so after he slaughtered them in the 80's.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:21 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Having a physical presence is better at deterring minor/small scale engagements.
Maybe 40 years ago, not today, and definitely not in the Middle East. If the USA has to engage military I’m sure many would rather the Air Force, Navy, and drones vs boots on the ground.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:25 pm to RedRifle
Your title sucks.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:26 pm to Mo Jeaux
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We are the global check against tyranny.
We can't even check tyranny within our own fricking borders.
And you're an absolute moron.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:31 pm to VADawg
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Ehh, between the Lusitania and the Zimmermann Telegram, Germany 1000% brought that upon themselves.
Yep.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:31 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Exactly what I said above. The Iranians didn't frick w/him. They were terrified of him, and rightly so after he slaughtered them in the 80's.
The Iranians immediately fricked with him, through multiple avenues. First was the Badr Brigades, who conducted attacks into Iraq from Iran for 3 years until the uprising in 91. They also continued cultivating ties with the PUK during that period. They also continued leveraging religious support to build networks of supporters in Iraq, through numerous Iraqi-Iranian clerics who were educated at Najaf, relationships which proved useful after the US invasion in 2003.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:34 pm to crazy4lsu
I honestly didn't know those details. Thanks for enlightening me. I learned something.
The Iranian govt(the general population is great for the most part) is evil.
The Iranian govt(the general population is great for the most part) is evil.
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