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Foundations of Singularity on display in Tokyo

Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:17 am
Posted by mpar98
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:17 am
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Left overnight, a robot empowered by the algorithms can use trial and error to figure out how to pick up randomly positioned objects with 90 percent accuracy. Eight machines working simultaneously and sharing their lessons can do that in an hour. A veteran Fanuc engineer would need several days to write a teaching program that even approaches that performance.



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This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:20 am
Posted by schexyoung
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:20 am to
So in 2016 we get Batman vs. Superman AND Man vs. Machine.

How do the robots feel about ISIS?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Member since Jan 2007
36432 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:20 am to
learning AI scares me. That's really all I have to say about this.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:21 am
Posted by gorillacoco
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:31 am to
Still no evidence whatsoever of strong AI. Learning algorithm =/= intelligence.
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:47 am to
Duh, the machines are too smart to show their hand this early in the game.
Posted by tigerstripedjacket
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:53 am to
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Learning algorithm =/= intelligence


How would you define intelligence?

You learned to breastfeed (something many consider reflex) using the same trial and error technique.
Posted by gorillacoco
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:53 am to
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the machines are too smart to show their hand this early in the game.


no doubt.

Instead of artificial intelligence these articles should call it artificial mindless task-doing from now on.

What's next with these 'learning, artificially intelligent machines'? Are they going to 'pick up randomly positioned objects with 100 percent accuracy after 5 minutes'? The world will end.
Posted by gorillacoco
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:56 am to
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How would you define intelligence?


Certainly something more than iterative learning algorithms. Personally I would define AI as something that can think on its own, come up with ideas, determine what to do next, etc. I've never seen a machine that can do anything better than a single set of preprogrammed tasks. Maybe they can do those tasks better or faster than a human, but cockroaches are better at identifying problems and coming up with solutions to them than any "AI".
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:58 am to
:itshappening:

Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:08 am to
Mmm, a sex-bot.
Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:09 am to
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identifying problems and coming up with solutions


This sounds like exactly what the article is describing these robots doing, and they're doing it better than humans. I'd consider that intelligence.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:16 am to
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learning AI scares me.


The printing press scared people too. Luddites have no place in the new world.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:20 am to
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Personally I would define AI as something that can think on its own, come up with ideas, determine what to do next, etc. I've never seen a machine that can do anything better than a single set of preprogrammed tasks. Maybe they can do those tasks better or faster than a human, but cockroaches are better at identifying problems and coming up with solutions to them than any "AI".


It's not going to happen overnight but we're certainly getting there. If you're trying to minimize the accomplishments by moving the goalposts at each step, good luck.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:21 am to
Look at it like this: robots are 1 step closer to replacing fast food employees. Now they can take your order plus flip the burgers with 90% accuracy, which is probably higher than some current workers
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5328 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:15 am to
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If you're trying to minimize the accomplishments by moving the goalposts at each step, good luck.


The goal of strong AI has always been the same: an intelligence that can identify problems interfering with broad goals and come up with its own solutions. They don't have to be complicated, they just require actual thinking in a real-world situation. It's a field which has seen little if any actual progress since its inception in the 50's.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
76202 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:21 am to
Robots from 1973:

They can't get much better.

Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
69244 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:29 am to
I'm ready for our robot slave masters. Change we can believe in!
Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Member since Jul 2013
45560 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:30 am to
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Left overnight, a robot empowered by the algorithms can use trial and error to figure out how to pick up randomly positioned objects with 90 percent accuracy.


Roomba been doing this for years.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:33 am to
I'm way too hungover to have a reasonably informed debate on this. Mind if I bump this thread tomorrow?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:35 am to
It's Thursday you alcoholic
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