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re: Fossils in Greece Suggest Human Ancestors Evolved in Europe, Not Africa

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Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:33 am to
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A pathological BS-artist. Now make-believe Bible Scholar and clown extraordinaire.






I have no idea what any of this means or has to do with the Bible?

I was not speaking in any sense of a biblical Adam and Eve, but rather the Mitochondrial Eve and Y Chromosomal Adam.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:37 am to
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I know and understand evolution just fine.

The fact that you said there are "endless examples" of intermediary species in the fossil record flies in the face of paleontology in every conceivable way to the point where you cannot be taken seriously.


You've more than held serve and met the challenge of Evolutionists.

They will keep on insisting that those who dare question this half-baked, hoax-addled theory "don't understand evolution".

This Cult of Un-Proven Supposition & Theory refuses to examine the evidence. They can't possibly defend its own religion by the "scientific method", the Timeline, nor as you've noted, via their dubious and ridiculously insistent claim of "intermediate species".

I see some cute fantasy artwork has even desperately been cited as "proof" of some past "hybrid" creatures -- supposedly I assume as "evidence" of "intermediate species in the fossil record.

Of course ZERO "intermediate species" have EVER been found -- and even the High Priests of Evolution rue this huge weakness in their theory/religion.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:41 am to
re: Fossils in Greece Suggest Human Ancestors Evolved in Europe, Not Africa

Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:16 am to Mike

da Tigah
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Agreed, and even science agrees that we all share a common ancestor.



Fun Bunch:
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Our "common ancestor" "Adam and Eve" lived thousands of years apart from each other.


I have no idea what any of this means or has to do with the Bible?



Adam and Eve. Bible. Genesis. HULLO.

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I was not speaking in any sense of a biblical Adam and Eve, but rather the Mitochondrial Eve and Y Chromosomal Adam.



WHA....??

Where'd you find that drivel?

Wow.


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:42 am to
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Where'd you find that drivel?



You are a good troll, I will always give you credit for that.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:52 am to
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So.... a half dog-half dolphin isn't transitional, a flying rat doesn't do it for you, actual fossil records of this thing don't count:




So you believe the above artwork depiction is a "real" creature from the past?

THIS one??

This article and "discovery" of an alleged ancient creature based on a few ragged bones is pure speculation, assumption, supposition and wish-casting; from its past existence (41-5 MILLION years ago), to its cartoon-like appearance, to the "Science" presumption of being part of "WHALE EVOLUTION".

This entire story is proof that Evolutionary Science is nothing but Wish-Casting, Artistic License, and FICTION masquerading as "Science" and "Evolution".

Egypt breakthrough as remains of previously unknown four-legged 'god of death' whale found

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THE FOSSIL of a previously unknown whale ancestor has been unearthed in Egypt, with researchers naming the bizarre creature after the god of death, Anubis.







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The creature lived about 56 million to 41 million years ago and was discovered in the Kuldana Formation in northern Pakistan.

The Pakicetus grew to lengths of about six feet and seven inches (two metres).

Palaeontologists believe it would have fed on small animals and fish, and represents a transitional stage between terrestrial and aquatic whales.

The discovery of the Phiomicetus anubis adds another dimension to our understanding of the whale's evolution.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:00 am to
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That’s not what this article is claiming at all. It’s not even attempting to dispute our ancestors evolved in Africa
It is. OOA asserts that all hominids and apes came from Africa. This finding disputes that.

It's also worth noting that all modern humans have neanderthal DNA, with the exception of sub-saharan Africans. Clearly, there is a lot about human evolution that we haven't uncovered.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:02 am to
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It's also worth noting that all modern humans have neanderthal DNA, with the exception of sub-saharan Africans. Clearly, there is a lot about human evolution that we haven't uncovered.




Are you suggesting we are different species?
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:03 am to
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Yes, they do, numbnuts.
Now you're pressed because your religion is being questioned. This is good.


More frustration that you are that stupid and cannot grasp the basic concepts being laid out for you by people who understand how it works better than you do.

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Sure there are, and they all are easily qualified in taxonomic order. There are explosions of new species, there are millions of years of species that disappear, then suddenly reappear in new, albeit similar lifeforms with ZERO transitional life forms known to science in between. This is common and expected. You gave an example of deuterostomes, that's great. Starfish are deuterostomes. That doesn't prove your assertion that there are endless examples of intermediary species in the fossil record. I googled it again to be sure: intermediary species in the fossil record is not looking good.

You understand how wrong you are, right? You understand the acknowledgement that the fossil record of intermediary species is pitiful across the board? You're making a case for something that, as we know it, like aliens, doesn't exist in any quantifiable form?


You didn't look hard enough and clearly don't understand how lineages work. There are legions of connecting species between deuterostomes and, say, a snake. Or deuterostomes and, say, a starfish. Again, that you don't understand how evolution works is your onus.

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That you fail to understand that is how evolution works seems to more due to your simpleton understanding of "transition" species than it is a shortcoming of the fossil record.
My boy, the fossil record is, literally and metaphorically speaking, set in stone. There are not, and likely will never be any mass uncovering of a smoking gun fossil record that shows a planetary-level of species building up and coinciding towards more advanced lifeforms. There are extinction events, reappearances of different but similar animals, and nothing in between. And to assert that we know how the genome sequence works from the beginning of life, all the way out to all of the branches of the tree of life like you've asserted is like your declaration that google will give endless examples of intermediary fossils in the record: laughable.


Again, that is not how any of this works, and the gaps in your comprehension are plainly obvious. There is no "building up and coinciding towards more advanced lifeforms". Otherwise so-called "simple" life forms such as bacteria would no longer exist. Species evolve, branch, evolve, branch - over hundreds of millions of years with layers upon layers of minute changes over time that incrementally add up to large changes.

And no one asserted to "know how the genome sequence works from the beginning of life", so not only do you not understand how evolution works, your reading comprehension sucks balls.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:03 am to
Aaah -- The TROLL calls out a "troll"?

Rich, Chubby.

You never bring anything solid to the TD table.

Something, ANYTHING interesting. For once?

You're best "shots" have always been lies, exaggerations and characterizations.

Your "knowledge" falls below the Bell Curve. Your intellect, Average. Boring.

"Digs" aren't a substitute for sharing exchanges. Of course you're a bit handicapped by your minimal base of knowledge of science or anything other than a cursory awareness of politics and WI law.

Here? You're trying to fake it -- and it shows.

This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 9:04 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:08 am to
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Why don't you tell the class how "evolution" works? tick...tick...tick...


You ready to post that pic yet?

Still waiting.

Tick….. tick…… tick…..


“YoUr DrUnK”
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63169 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:12 am to
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Are you suggesting we are different species?

I don't know if it qualifies as all that, but what I said is a fact. Maybe it's an indication that we are far from having a complete picture of 'homo sapien' evolution.

After all, neanderthals were more sophisticated in many ways, much earlier. For example, the oldest known musical instrument is a 60k year old flute found in Spain, which was played by neanderthals.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:16 am to
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Yes, we evolved from ape-like mammals.


According to your theory, are ape-like" creatures constantly evolving"? Or is the "evolution" over and done with?

Moreover, in staying with you on and presuming this "evolution of ape --> man" will continue forth, is the End Game for Evolutionary Man some kind of "Perfection"? "Godhood perhaps"?

Given the steady evolution from pre-Chimp (and its pre-Ape leap species), would Humans be expected to eventually grow enhanced, bigger craniums and brains? Enhanced / extra ears and noses?

What of environmental factors? Gills? Feathers? Extra digits and appendages?



Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:18 am to
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Aaah -- The TROLL calls out a "troll"?



How and when am I "trolling"

You are confused by Mitochondrial Eve and Y Chromosomal Adam, a reflection that you don't even have the slightest understanding of even basic science.

Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:19 am to
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“YoUr DrUnK”


Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
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9071 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:20 am to
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You are confused by Mitochondrial Eve and Y Chromosomal Adam, a reflection that you don't even have the slightest understanding of even basic science.






Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:23 am to
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Are you suggesting we are different species?


No, we”re the same species. We can interbreed and produce offspring that isn’t sterile.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:25 am to
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Moreover, in staying with you on and presuming this "evolution of ape --> man" will continue forth, is the End Game for Evolutionary Man some kind of "Perfection"? "Godhood perhaps"?

Given the steady evolution from pre-Chimp (and its pre-Ape leap species), would Humans be expected to eventually grow enhanced, bigger craniums and brains? Enhanced / extra ears and noses?


It appears you are confusing evolution with intelligent design where there is some end goal of perfection.

Evolution occurs because a trait gives an increased chance of reproduction.

Larger craniums would not be selected for unless women/men found them attractive and they increased the chances of reproduction over normal sized craniums. Same with extra ears and noses.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:26 am to
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The reason I don’t buy the “out of Africa” hypothesis is that it would be logically impossible for prehistoric humans to find their way to all corners of the globe like they did.

It is my belief that ape like creatures were all over the world and humans evolved simultaneously but independently.
The prehistoric humans couldn't spread around the world... but the prehistoric apes before them did?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37716 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:26 am to
So nothing, again?

Why am I not surprised?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128005 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:26 am to
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Evolution occurs because a trait gives an increased chance of reproduction.



All evolution is, is a change in allele frequencies over time. At its most basic levels.

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Larger craniums would not be selected for unless women/men found them attractive and they increased the chances of reproduction over normal sized craniums. Same with extra ears and noses.



I don't think this is accurate. Evolution really doesn't have anything to do with "attraction", to my knowledge
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