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re: Fort Stewart, GA lockdown - active shooter
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:43 pm to Bubb
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:43 pm to Bubb
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Casualties
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"Casualty" primarily refers to an event that results in misfortune, particularly death or injury, often unexpectedly.
But if they just said injured it would not garner as much attention. Because a lot of people read casualty like you do.
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:44 pm to Bubb
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I hate this word. Casualties to me always means dead. Did I learn this wrong or has the meaning changed over time?
It’s included dead AND wounded for as long as I can remember. I think you learned wrong
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:45 pm to Jim Rockford
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Joe did something stupid enough to attract SGM'S attention and the others were there to share in the rain of shite. Unfortunately they thought Joe was just a dumbass when he was really a psycho.
As good a theory as any. I didn't consider myself a hardass, but I had trouble with senior NCOs trying to protect Joe from me.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:47 pm to Bubb
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Casualties to me always means dead. Did I learn this wrong or has the meaning changed over time?
Casualties means killed, wounded, missing (all statuses, but specifically "presumed dead"), and prisoners.
KIA is explicitly dead.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:47 pm to spslayto
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But if they just said injured it would not garner as much attention. Because a lot of people read casualty like you do.
You think five people being shot on a US military base hinges on particular nomenclature for garnering attention?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:48 pm to Bubb
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Casualties to me always means dead.
Well what does fatalities mean to you?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:49 pm to Lexis Dad
I'm possibly out of date, but my experience is that: appropriate firearms are issued based on duty need not rank. Officers with 45's and enlisted with rifles is aWW2 movie thing.
MP's, CID and contract security guards are issued pistols enlisted and officer. For the Army guys the guns go back to the arms room at the end of work. You don't walk around armed when off duty.
There have been so any rule changes about open/concealed carry that I don't what any serviceman does about a personal weapon. When I was Army living on base, you were required to keep ammo and the gun with the unit armorer.
The Army has so much experience with troops killing a superior with an issued firearm that they drill for it. The issuing armorer gets in a shitload of trouble.
MP's, CID and contract security guards are issued pistols enlisted and officer. For the Army guys the guns go back to the arms room at the end of work. You don't walk around armed when off duty.
There have been so any rule changes about open/concealed carry that I don't what any serviceman does about a personal weapon. When I was Army living on base, you were required to keep ammo and the gun with the unit armorer.
The Army has so much experience with troops killing a superior with an issued firearm that they drill for it. The issuing armorer gets in a shitload of trouble.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:01 pm to Tree_Fall
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I'm possibly out of date, but my experience is that: appropriate firearms are issued based on duty need not rank.
You are correct. It is by position, rank has nothing to do with it. For example, a MP 1SG is dual carry meaning M17/M4 while the CO CDR is M17. Some officers on Battalion and Brigade Staffs carry M4s and not M17s.
The funny part is the vast majority of Officers at my current assignment believe that they automatically carry an M17 and get real upset when theyre issued a M4.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:09 pm to TigerCop89
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:12 pm to Ace Midnight
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Meh. I'm not so sure. Clinton pretty thoroughly defanged all servicemembers on base. Unless you're at the range, you're generally not armed on a military base.*
It wasn't Clinton; it was Bush who made that directive. 190-14 didn't come out until Clinton was in office, but the prime mover was Bush. It didn't make a lot of difference because most garrison commanders didn't allow POFs on base prior to '92 anyway.
I was a platoon leader/company commander during that stretch, and it didn't change our base or unit policy; we just made a point of reiterating the POF situation.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:14 pm to spslayto
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But if they just said injured it would not garner as much attention. Because a lot of people read casualty like you do
Injured means they lived. Casualties means they could have lived or been killed or injured and later died. Casualties has always been the appropriate initial term when it comes to war and/or shooting events. Specifically, when you know a body count but not yet the outcome of each
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:24 pm to Bubb
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This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:45 pm to boxcarbarney
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:45 pm to Philzilla2k
I believe he’s referring to on-base?
I think it’s comical that troops can’t carry weapons on base. Never once has that rule prevented a shooting.
I think it’s comical that troops can’t carry weapons on base. Never once has that rule prevented a shooting.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:55 pm to jcaz
I believe certain politicians referred to him as a Quornball Brotha’
Posted on 8/6/25 at 3:22 pm to boxcarbarney
Comments saying his leave was denied and he was being chaptered. Tpos
Posted on 8/6/25 at 3:33 pm to carhartt
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I read that a 2nd BCT soldier shot his entire enlisted CoC.
And here come the military acronyms
Posted on 8/6/25 at 3:54 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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You think five people being shot on a US military base hinges on particular nomenclature for garnering attention?
Yes I do....the media sensationalizes as much as it can. The news carefully words things...especially headlines for attention and clicks. This is nothing new.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 3:55 pm to Bubb
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I hate this word. Casualties to me always means dead. Did I learn this wrong or has the meaning changed over time?
They put Hospitals on alert when there are "mass casualty" events.
Why would they alert the hospital if casualties only meant those killed?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 5:45 pm to boxcarbarney
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28-year-old Army Sgt. Quornelius Radford,
CNN: "white guy, knew it"
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