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re: Forgotten Horrors: Ant-Walking Alligators of Hiroshima
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:45 am to FelicianaTigerfan
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:45 am to FelicianaTigerfan
That's some freaky shite.
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:45 am to The Third Leg
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No. I'd prefer we not be in wars at all.
I agree with you there, but if you're provoked, you must retaliate or lose your way of life.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:46 am to The Third Leg
GFY! 
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:46 am to The Third Leg
We all would. But we didn't have a choice. These suicidal, genocidal maniacs attacked us and were threatening subjugation or annihilation. Is war not justified then?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:46 am to The Third Leg
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No. I'd prefer we not be in wars at all.
It is rather obvious that you are trolling but I am an idiot and cannot stop myself from asking how we could have prevented a war with Japan when they struck the first blow. Please don't bring up and foreign policy decisions we made as that is a cop out. They attacked us first.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:48 am to The Third Leg
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The eye for an eye maxim never ceases to amaze me. War is ugly, I get it. shite goes down, mistakes are made. But I have always struggled to rationalize how people thought we were within reason to drop two nukes on these frickers.
Because millions upon millions more would have died, almost all of which would have been civilians. The Japanese were fricking crazy and would never surrender. If they were sane like the Italians then we may have risked it, but no way with the Japanese.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:48 am to Ace Midnight
Wow the baby crying alone on the platform was a tough picture
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:50 am to The Third Leg
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Let's forget about the toxic wasteland of collateral damage and chalk up to saving lives.
If you are referring to fallout the I believe only about 1 per cent of the uranium material used in the bomb was fissionable. Plus, the bombs were relatively small compared to the ones in reserve nowadays. The radioactivity was very short lived. 2 weeks to a month was all it took for the radioactivity to dissipate.
As far a civillian deaths they were all preparing to fight a land invasion (men, women and children). The slaughter would have been way worse than dropping the 2 atomic bombs.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:53 am to The Third Leg
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No. I'd prefer we not be in wars at all.
Well unfortunately that's not always possible. The U.S. tried to stay out of WW2.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:53 am to The Third Leg
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Let's forget about the toxic wasteland of collateral damage and chalk up to saving lives.
Yeah, look at the wasteland that it left in its wake for decades.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:53 am to The Third Leg
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Is Nanking still producing mutant life forms?
Is this happening anywhere in japan as a result of our nukes?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:54 am to Shexter
There are some old Marines on another message board I post on who say those who survived the march were summarily castrated. Little known fact.
OP, I wouldn't live here, with all of us terrorist pieces of shite. I'd move, or at least have the stones to find the nearest VFW and tell all of them there what terrorists we were for nuking Japan.
OP, I wouldn't live here, with all of us terrorist pieces of shite. I'd move, or at least have the stones to find the nearest VFW and tell all of them there what terrorists we were for nuking Japan.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:54 am to Mizzoufan26
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Wow the baby crying alone on the platform was a tough picture
where are these pictures?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:55 am to DanTiger
I would ask how we had managed to do it without nukes since the revolution, considering we have been engaged in military operations from that point forward.
Aso, and I do not necessarily support this hypothesis, but some believe that the US provoked the attack.
Aso, and I do not necessarily support this hypothesis, but some believe that the US provoked the attack.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:55 am to Kracka
This definitely needed some sort of NSF something label
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:56 am to JohnnyKilroy
Nope
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There are many, many sources on this. There was no statistical increase in birth defects. It's a myth.
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No statistically significant increase in major birth defects or other untoward pregnancy outcomes was seen among children of survivors. Monitoring of nearly all pregnancies in Hiroshima and Nagasaki began in 1948 and continued for six years. During that period, 76,626 newborn infants were examined by ABCC physicians. When surveillance began, certain dietary staples were rationed in Japan, but ration regulations made special provision for women who were at least 20 weeks pregnant. This supplementary ration registration process enabled the identification of more than 90% of all pregnancies and the subsequent examination of birth outcomes.
Physical examination of newborns during the first two weeks after birth provided information on birth weight, prematurity, sex ratio, neonatal deaths, and major birth defects. Newborn frequencies of untoward pregnancy outcomes, stillbirths, and malformations are shown in Tables 1, 2, and 3 according to parental dose or exposure. The incidence of major birth defects (594 cases or 0.91%) among the 65,431 registered pregnancy terminations for which parents were not biologically related accords well with a large series of contemporary Japanese births at the Tokyo Red Cross Maternity Hospital, where radiation exposure was not involved and overall malformation frequency was 0.92%. No untoward outcome showed any relation to parental radiation dose or exposure.
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There are many, many sources on this. There was no statistical increase in birth defects. It's a myth.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:58 am to ThuperThumpin
Land invastion of Japan would have been horrendous. Just look at the lives expended in taking the islands leading up to it.
And for those of us who had fathers (or other ancestors) who would have been part of that invasion force, there is a very good chance we wouldn't be here if not for the bomb.
Plus, if the bombs had not compelled the Japanese to surrender when they did, I'm pretty sure the Russians would have gotten involved from the North. I don't think that would have benefited the Japanese population much.
And for those of us who had fathers (or other ancestors) who would have been part of that invasion force, there is a very good chance we wouldn't be here if not for the bomb.
Plus, if the bombs had not compelled the Japanese to surrender when they did, I'm pretty sure the Russians would have gotten involved from the North. I don't think that would have benefited the Japanese population much.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:59 am to Methuselah
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And for those of us who had fathers (or other ancestors) who would have been part of that invasion force, there is a very good chance we wouldn't be here if not for the bomb.
I'd say there's a 100% none of us that are baby boomers or younger would still be around.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:59 am to JOJO Hammer
Looks like we got some unamerican mother frickers in here.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:00 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, look at the wasteland that it left in its wake for decades.
It was hyperbolic, to be sure.
That said, do you disagree that the fallout existed in an on-going form?
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