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re: For you youngsters; The truth about owning a home

Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:30 am to
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5617 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:30 am to
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drop another $5K/yr average on upkeep & maintenance.



whats wrong with your house? my first year owning i had to replace the whole AC system and im no where near that figure.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
62954 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:30 am to
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1. Buy a lot in a new & upcoming subdivision after the 1st few houses are completed.

2. Have house plans drawn up with a layout that works best for your lifestyle and budget.

3. Hire contractor to build the house.

4. Repeat this process every 6-10 years

Take your profits and sink them into the next house.
You'll be able to move up in house every time with the added benefit of living in a pretty new home the entire time.


This only applies when there's massive population growth. If people aren't having children above replacement level then not only will they never require a house to live in, but the kids they would have had will never end up there either.


I can only assume you're a boomer.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86988 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:32 am to
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This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
81 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:33 am to
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just spent $400 to repair the igniter on my oven


I just did the same it took me thirty minutes and an eighteen dollar part.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17792 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:35 am to
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Besides your mortgage & escrow, you should expect to drop another $5K/yr average on upkeep & maintenance.



True for losers like you that can't fix/maintain things yourself. If you are spending $400+/month like that you either bought a property with severe issues or suck as a human being and are dirty and negligent in how you live. I've owned my house for nearly 20 years and have done significant remodeling of the kitchen and two bathrooms for less than $5,000 in materials. Learn to swing a hammer and cut wood, save money and not be a POS home owner.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86988 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:35 am to
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I just did the same it took me thirty minutes and an eighteen dollar part.
thats cute and all and its fun to find a youtube video for stuff but that's not always the case either because you lack the time to do it or the correct tools.

sooner or later something will break and you'll have to spend $400 but its cool you found a brag moment.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19169 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:37 am to
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I rent. Most of those closest to me have bought homes in the past 2-4 years. From my perspective, I'm spending way less and have less stress

This is probably a very accurate statement; however, it's because they just bought their houses. In another 5-10 years, compare their mortgage prices to your rental rates (assuming you're still renting). Unless they have a non-traditional loan, their mortgage rates will remain the same (insurance & Taxes will increase some), but your rental rates most likely will increase. Also, what is their sqft, bed & bath set-up compared to yours? Are you comparing a 1,000 sqft, 2 bed, 1 1/2 bath apartment to a 2,500 sqft, 3 bed, 2 1/2 bath house?

Sure, there is the added stress of the fact that it is yours, and it can be a burden if you need to move; but live there 7+ years and you will see there can be a substantial gain if you do need to sell/move.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
111923 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:38 am to
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just spent $400 to repair the igniter on my oven this morning.


shite like this is how yall spend $5k/yr

Thread title should be: The truth about owning a home IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO FIX THINGS YOURSELF

Anyone with basic knowledge and access to YouTube can save themselves tons of money
Posted by TomJoadGhost
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
1003 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:39 am to
I agree that mortgaging a home is not ideal. I bought a townhouse with cash 5 years ago and it has worked out well for me. Only one shared wall and my neighbor is a widow that travels a lot it see her grandkids. No yard to upkeep. General maintenance is very manageable.

That said, mortgaging a home for 18 years allowed me to pay cash for this place, so maybe it’s not the worst idea. I know when I owned that home I often dreaded the yard work and general upkeep.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 11:40 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86988 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:40 am to
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Thread title should be: The truth about owning a home IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO FIX THINGS YOURSELF

Anyone with basic knowledge and access to YouTube can save themselves tons of money


i DIY almost everything terdster and there are some things that you just can't take care of yourself.

sometimes you're out of town when something break or simply dont have the time or tools to do something that may not be a difficult DIY
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 11:40 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85115 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:40 am to
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I just did the same it took me thirty minutes and an eighteen dollar part.


Yeah. I've replaced 2 igniters on my oven.

There are so many little small repairs that a simple YT video could help, even if you think they are beyond your skillset.

Cleaning dishwasher filter, cleaning lawnmower carburetor, repairing garage door motor, etc. All small things that I easily fixed by doing some research on YT.

Of course, it doesn't always work, like when I tried to replace that starter on my truck and quickly realized that was over my head
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
81 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:42 am to
Didn’t need a YouTube video. The only tool required was a screw driver to remove the two mounting screws. Don’t be lazy and go to Home Depot and buy you a tool kit for less than a hundred bucks, it will save you thousands
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3908 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:45 am to
Maintenance costs really depends upon a lot of factors. This was an expensive year for me because I bought a house 3 years ago that was constructed in the late 1990's. Every 25 years or so, you will have major maintenance costs. This year included a $25K roof replacement, $8K AC coil replacement, $2K garage door replacement and probably a few other items. When looking for a house, if the roof and HVAC haven't been replaced in the last 10 years, you should start a reserve fund for them. My previous house had a swimming pool and I probably averaged $3K a year in repairs on it over the five years we had it. (multiple pumps having to be replaced, acid washed once or twice, Polaris replacement twice, heater repairs, salt cell replacement, control panel replacement, electrical issues with lights, etc.)

In my opinion, it is still smarter in the long run to buy a house (not with a pool though - LOL). I borrowed about $250K for my last house, so maybe interest paid every year averaged around $7K and property taxes were around $6K. Using those numbers, I was able to deduct $13K from my income when doing taxes, using a 20% overall tax bracket, that is $2,600 a year in tax savings. (Rough numbers for discussion purposes) I was also able to take out a home equity loan and purchase investment real estate property, which has resulted in an extra income of about $12K per year. I also made about $250K when I sold the house 15 years later.

Not many people like to look years down the road, but it pays. Out of the money I pocketed when I sold my last house, I took $100K of it and bought a $500K beach condo that pays for itself and generates another $15K per year in income after expenses are paid. It was also time to downsize, so I had a larger percentage to pay down on the smaller house I purchased 3 years ago, making my mortgage payment (including taxes and insurance) about half of what it would cost to rent this house.

To each his own, but I always view everything long term.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98422 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:47 am to
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True for losers like you that can't fix/maintain things yourself. If you are spending $400+/month like that you either bought a property with severe issues or suck as a human being and are dirty and negligent in how you live. I've owned my house for nearly 20 years and have done significant remodeling of the kitchen and two bathrooms for less than $5,000 in materials. Learn to swing a hammer and cut wood, save money and not be a POS home owner.



I have no doubt I could fix anything around my house but honestly I’d rather go fishing
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:49 am to
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1. Your house appreciates over the years. If you buy a house and sell it 20 years later you will have made a nice profit.


Debatable when you look at what you are actually paying. More doable recently with low interest rates.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
111923 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:49 am to
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there are some things that you just can't take care of yourself.


About the only thing I've had trouble with is HVAC issues... but I know a guy and that also helps with costs.

It's all about learning to do basic repairs and having a network of people that can help. You can save a lot of money.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27772 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:51 am to
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Besides your mortgage & escrow, you should expect to drop another $5K/yr average on upkeep & maintenance.

I’ve owned for 20+ years, and I’m convinced it’s a scam.

Renting sucks for the lifestyle compromises, but it’s probably more cost effective.



OR

buy a very cheap starter home in a high rent area. Fix it up live in it until you have 1 or two kids. Save money and move out to a bigger comfortable home with a high resale value and rent out the original. Profit.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23653 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:53 am to
That's why they all live at Mom's house - it's free
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21443 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:54 am to
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Renting sucks for the lifestyle compromises, but it’s probably more cost effective.


I would love to see a cost flow analysis suggesting this to be true.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17792 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 12:00 pm to
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I have no doubt I could fix anything around my house


I get asked to repair what others have "fixed" all the time.
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