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re: Flying in Twin Engine Cessna

Posted on 3/8/21 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83962 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 12:21 pm to
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The conquest is a big step up from a basic single engine plane. It has twin turbine engines and is super fast and reliable. Its a highly sought after twin these days.



that's great, as long as you don't have some idiot that thinks he can fly it just because he can afford to buy it
Posted by GardenDistrictTiger
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2020
2480 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 1:15 pm to
Or hire some guy cheap who has no business being anywhere close to a high performance aircraft. I've seen it time and time again.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83962 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

hire some guy cheap


a professional pilot is the way to go if you aren't willing to put in the time to maintain proficiency, aviation is awesome, I encourage more people to experience it more, it's just that you have to know the limitations of the aircraft, and more importantly, yourself

quote:

high performance aircraft


relative term


jk
Posted by GardenDistrictTiger
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2020
2480 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 1:31 pm to
I fly Gulfstreams. Not much else is high performance in my opinion.

The 441 performs well for what it is.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83962 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 1:36 pm to
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Not much else is high performance in my opinion.



it's all relative, amigo

LINK


ETA: doing about 450 right before going vertical
This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 1:42 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
66146 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 1:38 pm to
Get wasted the night before so you're so hungover during the flight you almost hope it goes down.
Posted by Flambeaux
Member since Feb 2021
137 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 1:40 pm to
I hope you didn’t just jinx yourself with this thread. Good luck.
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10413 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 5:00 pm to
Hope OP survived. Don’t see any plane crash stories
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 5:04 pm to
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Hope OP survived. Don’t see any plane crash stories


Haha I made it. Took me 1 hour and 45 mins to get from MS to NC.

I rode copilot the whole time and it was a smooth flight most of the way. I got a lot more comfortable once we were on autopilot at 25000 ft. He updated the autopilot firmware last year so it was smooth. We hit some decent turbulence at 10000 ft during our descent. Anxiety meds had kicked in good by then so I didn't have a worry in the world. Also he constructed the airport that we landed at in NC...so the airport charter service treated us like royalty when we landed. Rolled out the red carpet haha.

And to answer a few questions. My boss is the pilot and flies his plane like we drive our commuter cars to work everyday. I work at home so he probably flies his plane more than I drive my SUV. He's been flying regularly since the 80's so he has lots of flight hours. The plane has regular maintenance and is well maintained. It also has all brand new dash/avionic instruments so its not antiquated. He has all of the best bells and whistles on it.

He was a little pissed when we got in the plane because he let his son fly his friends around in it last week and he left the plane in a mess.
This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28695 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 5:27 pm to
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I have read stories of skydiving planes that crashed and everyone dies and I wonder just how in the hell did not at least one person be able to use their chute ?


Someone already answered you correctly that those disasters are usually when the plane hasn't gotten enough altitude for a jumper to get their canopy open. Your choice is to take your chances the pilot can get down safely or go out the door and just splatter on the ground, the only positive about going out the door too low is at least you have something to pretend to do and keep your mind occupied as you fall to your death.

There is something ironic about someone dying in a small place crash when their intention was to jump out of the plane.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42921 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 6:18 pm to
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Last time we flew together I sat in copilot seat....an alarm started going off on the planes dash when we we 15000 feet up. He yelled "Oh shite". The last thing I want to hear the pilot say is "Oh shite". I nearly shite my pants.

Luckily the alarm was caused by him forgetting to turn the knob to decompress the cabin. After he turned the knob, the alarm went off a few seconds later.


I have a friend with a single engine plane. I went up with him one time just to fly and kill an afternoon. We are cruising along the Ms river and I am sitting in the copilot seat and he says "Copilot's airplane. I am going to take a nap because I do not feel good." After about 30 seconds of me freaking out he says "I am just messing with you." Good thing I didn't have a gun on me because when we got back to the airport is the one time that I was mad enough to actually shoot somebody.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

There is something ironic about someone dying in a small place crash when their intention was to jump out of the plane.


Some years back a Cessna 182 that was being used as a jump plane had a engine failure right after take off, the 5 people on board including the pilot all had chutes on, but there was not enough time or altitude to jump. The pilot did a good job of putting it in a field, but there was a fire, and 2 didn’t make it out, I had jumped from the same plane a few years prior.
This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 6:45 pm
Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
13286 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 8:27 pm to
I'm an Aerospace engineer, and I actually fear flying. It isn't the planes that I have an issue with, it's the pilots. I don't trust people

Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6503 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

landed at in NC

What airport?
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 8:49 pm to
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What airport?


Fayetteville
This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77265 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 8:53 pm to
Any turbulence?
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 8:59 pm to
This never happened. You’re in Oxford enjoying a Marco’s pizza.
This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 9:06 pm
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

Any turbulence?



Smooth the entire way until our descent. Got pretty bumpy around 10000ft.

The weather was beautiful. Barely any wind and absolutely zero clouds.
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:03 pm to
Haha you saw my snap. I'm eating a Marco's za at the Hilton Garden Inn in Fayetteville
This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 9:05 pm
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11997 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:38 pm to
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Yep, you can tell when they don't have fires when they crash. (Ran out of fuel on approach) It's amazing how cheap and stupid some small plane pilots can be.


Here’s one... So I’m from Mississippi and am in Atlanta for the weekend with a vehicle. I have a meeting with my boss and a friend and few others in Birmingham that Monday, so they’re like hey we’re going to fly over if you’d be alright with picking us up. Sure.

So they land and we’re in the little lobby area and the pilot is handling tie down service and whatnot. The person at the desk is like okay, tie down is $25 but we wave it if you fill up with fuel... This motherfricker ponders it. I assume he’s doing the math and he goes, nah I think we’ll make it back with what we’ve got on... Son of a bitch. Top it off. Take the guess work out of it.
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