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re: Florida Man Shoots and Kills Neighbor Doing Yard Work

Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:59 pm to
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Appraisal district satellite images aren't always accurate, but a search on the shooter's name seems to back up the story that his fence is way inside the victim family property line.




Is that also a fence inside red property line on other side of house?

A fence inside property lines can be by choice, but if consistently off with other houses nearby it might be angle when image taken from satellite. The view does seem more over the top than when I used a service and saw the property line overlays consistently off.

If off from real property lines a little it would suck if the person killed used that as a basis to get on other side of the fence to trim the tree.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 5:01 pm
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2327 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:04 pm to
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Though there seems to be a fence line on the other side that is off by the same amount.
The appraisal district says the victim family (Ford) lives on the right side of image, where the fence encroaches on their property.

Satellite images can drift from the property lines, so it's not certain without a survey.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7224 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:07 pm to
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People are cracking under the social, political and economic pressure.


Nah. If he's 78 I guarantee he watches a certain 24hr news channel, all day, and he is fueld by fear and hate.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16879 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:13 pm to
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He threatened to shoot him then shot him, is that not pre-meditated?
This is covered by the FAFO exemption. He was warned
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1724 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:14 pm to
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Druzolowski told deputies he was in his bedroom watching football when his wife told him that their neighbor – Ford -- was cutting branches off one of their trees. He initially brushed it off, but his wife reportedly came back a short time later and said their fence gate was open and that the neighbor was on their property.


I feel like all the worlds ills have there root in some woman bitching.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21121 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:14 pm to
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He was warned

He was "warned" while not being threatening nor committing a forcible felony. That warning was bogus af.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16879 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:18 pm to
it was a joke. But given your complete lack of a sense of humor, the dude is dead so he probably would have listened if he were given a do over

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quote:

That warning was bogus af
. The bullet was legit af however
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 5:22 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16879 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:19 pm to
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I feel like all the worlds ills have there root in some woman bitching.
he should have shot her then had a beer with the neighbor
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44863 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:36 pm to
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He was "warned" while not being threatening nor committing a forcible felony. That warning was bogus af.


This is Florida, stand your ground is legal.
If the old man was on his own property and they guy keeping coming at him, despite being warned and then pulled an empty trigger and he still kept coming. It will be an interesting case.
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2327 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:38 pm to
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He was "warned" while not being threatening nor committing a forcible felony.

Local news shows that gate is on that fence that could be far inside the victim family property.

Moral: ignore your spouse when watching TV.

Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11741 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:39 pm to
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is it me or does the state of the world have society and EVERYONE in an angrier overall mood than decades past?




This shite has always happened. We just didn't have this place and the rest of the internet to tell us about it in decades past.

There is however one huge verifiable change from years past, and that is states no longer warehouse nutjubs in locked down insane asylums but instead rely on pharmaceuticals to protect normal society from them.
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2327 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:42 pm to
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This is Florida, stand your ground is legal.

Only applies if you consider tree-trimming a forcible felony.
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Florida’s law states “a person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 5:45 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21121 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:52 pm to
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This is Florida, stand your ground is legal.

You can't initiate confrontation and claim stand your ground
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If the old man was on his own property and they guy keeping coming at him, despite being warned and then pulled an empty trigger and he still kept coming. It will be an interesting case.

Old man was the aggressor. I invite you to peruse through chapter 776 of my state's statutes. I'll even spot you the LINK.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61472 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:03 pm to
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Appraisal district images aren't always accurate, but they do suggest that the shooter's fence encroaches far into the victim family property.


He's probably one of those shite bags who has their fence built out a few inches too far every so often to purposely try and steal the neighbor's land.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 6:04 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72335 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:37 pm to
Like the old proverb said, "Good fences make dead neighbors."
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44863 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:52 pm to
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Florida’s law states “a person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself

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Ford reportedly walked towards him and did not stop.

"Get off my property right now," he reportedly told Ford, according to the report.

"Stop right now or I'll shoot," he said.

Druzolowski told deputies that his gun holds six rounds and that he usually keeps the first to empty. He pulled the trigger once, but Ford reportedly kept walking towards him so he fired again, according to the report. Ford was hit in the chest, he thought, the report said.

He then told his wife to call 911.


I'm a 78 year old man standing on my own property have a verbal argument with another person, who refuses to leave my property. So I legally arm myself, tell him to get off my property and he approaches me on my property. Continues to approach even after I pulled the trigger the first time. I wasn't the aggressor, I was standing my ground. That would be my argument.





Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21121 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:56 pm to
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So I legally arm myself,

You arm yourself to confront the person a 2nd time?
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That would be my argument.

You may have argued your way up to murder 1, congrats!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82253 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:00 pm to

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Edward Druzolowski, 78


a life sentence for someone this age isn't so scary
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10553 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:00 pm to
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Local news shows that gate is on that fence that could be far inside the victim family property.


Elsewhere Ford’s mom is quoted as saying fence is hers and is inside her property by 2 feet at trees.

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She insisted that her son was working on her property, not the neighbor's. 'My fence is two feet inside my yard.

So I go another two feet outside my fenced area,' she said.


With growth those trees I would still doubt the son stayed within 2 feet and didn’t go into property, but they lived there for decades surely this has come up before.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11741 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:15 pm to
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a life sentence for someone this age isn't so scary



Its that after life sentence that is going to be a bitch.
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