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re: Florida ends "Alimony for life". Divorced broads are freaking out. This is hilarious.

Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by tss22h8
30.4 N 90.9 W
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:29 pm to
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There was a thread on Poli a few weeks back of some chick FREAKING about this and saying she would never vote for Desantis now. That was fun.


"Desantis just lost my vote..."
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35494 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:35 pm to
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It is 6 months, but almost always gets approved for an additional 6 months. So 1 year total.


It is my understanding that this is just to give the spouse support during the divorce proceedings and gives them a chance to get a job, new home, etc.

While technically still alimony, for much of that time period I would assume they are still married.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92259 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:37 pm to
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It is my understanding that this is just to give the spouse support during the divorce proceedings and gives them a chance to get a job, new home, etc.



and if the opposing attorney is successful in getting an increase in the temporary alimony to the dissolution amount the guy is subject to retro pay from day one, it's a fricked up system
Posted by Alika_kahuna
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:38 pm to
@tss22h8

Thanks for the link!! Good read!
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6928 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:39 pm to
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Woman graduates in engineering. Has a great job and is moving her way up the company. Her and husband and decide to have kids. As a family unit, the wife stops working and raises kids for 15 years, while the husband keeps working and continues his career growth and promotions
While not ideal, she can still find a good job in that situation. Her husband should give her thousands every month for the rest of her life?

Edit: also, in your scenario, she filed for divorce. He's a pos for cheating but having to go find a job would be a consideration when she decided to file for divorce.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:39 pm to
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very myopic approach

Woman graduates in engineering. Has a great job and is moving her way up the company. Her and husband and decide to have kids. As a family unit, the wife stops working and raises kids for 15 years, while the husband keeps working and continues his career growth and promotions

Husband cheats on wife multiple times, so wife wants a divorce

Just frick the wife here and completely screw her because she stunted her career growth for almost 2 decades raising the family for the cheating husband?

Do women sometimes abuse the situation? Of course. But the above situation happens quit often but this board is so terrified of women they don’t think it is possible



What about a husband who works his arse off providing for a wife and when he is 45 and broken down physically from working in the salt mines, she leaves his arse for greener pastures? Now he has to pay alimony and child support, plus split their assets. He is now too poor and unhealthy to attract a new mate.


We can spin these hypotheticals a million different ways.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35494 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:42 pm to
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the cheating husband was able to grow his career to a point of making lots of money because the wife was able to take the responsibility of staying home and raising the kids


Does the woman in this situation have agency? Is she an adult that is able to make decisions? Or does she need the state to be her daddy?

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:43 pm to
I get paying child support but alimony is bullshite. If you divorce you shouldn’t be obligated to pay the others bills, she is an adult she can support herself like she did before marriage
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92259 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Or does she need the state to be her daddy?



this, I said that in court once and got a scolding from the judge, I said you're making her a ward of the state, completely disincentivizing her to work or learn a vocation
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89772 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:47 pm to
Good, the laws are stacked against the men.

Imagine if men had initiated 70% of divorces and the women get to cook and clean for the x husbands for the rest of their lives.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102711 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Good. Especially if the woman initiated the divorce. Any woman who chooses to divorce her husband, no matter the reason, has obviously decided that she doesn’t need or want his money any more.


The under 3 years married is good. Gold diggers seeking to sacrifice a couple years of their life married to some wealthy dude they don’t really love so they can divorce him and be set for life will now have to really commit to their work
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89772 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:49 pm to
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You had your wife stay home and raise the kids while you work. She goes 18 plus years without any work and then you decide to run off with the pool boy. Now she is out of the house and realistically can't get a job doing anything because she's been at home for 20 years and no resume. That's the basis



Yes, but if the roles were reversed the man is seen as a dead beat and a shite dad for not having employment.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 1:50 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92259 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Gold diggers seeking to sacrifice a couple years of their life married to some wealthy dude they don’t really love so they can divorce him and be set for life


my ex's "advisors" told her that the formula for success was 10 years of marriage and two kids and you'll never work a day in your life, I later found out that she actually told my sister that that was her objective
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18049 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:57 pm to
Just checking in to see if hoes still mad?

I do find it funny that anyone thinks the family court system isn't still going to figure out a way to frick dudes over. There are plenty of states that don't have permanent alimony and somehow those women survive.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64361 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:00 pm to
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my ex's "advisors" told her that the formula for success was 10 years of marriage and two kids and you'll never work a day in your life, I later found out that she actually told my sister that that was her objective


Goddam that is sad as frick. I've always said we're moving into an era where women will actively plan to have multiple husband's before they even have their first marriage.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18042 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:06 pm to
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Alimony if given, should be maxed out at 2-3 years.



124 upvotes. Here's your 1st downvote. F expecting anything at all. Life is hard, deal. Alimony is like begging for money. Pathetic.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:12 pm to
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that fiction is well played out in divorce courts, shouldn't be like winning the lottery for the ex


Definitely not fiction. I've seen this exact scenario played out numerous times growing up and currently. Professional men LOVE to brag on their stay at home wife. It's a feather in their cap that the wife doesn't work.

This also gives him carte blanche to do whatever he sees fit during the day to further his career. She's busy at the mom groups making the right friends, playing tennis with the right people, and then mingling with these people - introducing the husbands - and thus making greater social connections. She is funny and charming at client dinners, and she hand-addresses the photo Christmas cards with their beautiful family and 1.5 doodle dogs.

If, after 30 years of this, he trades her in for a younger model, she best be getting half.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:08 pm to
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there are women in Engineering, Finance, RNs, and even medical doctors that have given up careers to raise a family.

Women in Engineering, Finance, and medical doctors will have to live in apartments because they can't afford it after a divorce from their successful husband AND getting half of the wealth over that time? I'm not sure I'm buying that.

If she already had the degree, she has a head start getting half of what they accumulated together, and those are generally good paying jobs with that degree that you won't be getting some $14/hr entry position with a medical or engineering degree

So you'd have half the wealth of your successful husband, let's say 5 years of alimony, and a job with your degree. I'd argue that's a pretty solid 5 year head start for that person.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111422 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:11 pm to
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What about a husband who works his arse off providing for a wife and when he is 45 and broken down physically from working in the salt mines, she leaves his arse for greener pastures? Now he has to pay alimony and child support, plus split their assets. He is now too poor and unhealthy to attract a new mate.
Then she shouldn’t get a dime

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We can spin these hypotheticals a million different ways
Correct. Which is my entire point.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:11 pm to
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First of all there should be no alimony unless you are a stay at home parent. We all choose our careers. Sorry if your career doesn’t pay as much as mine.

I have a family member who lives in Florida. Made twice as much as her ex-husband at the time of divorce, 50/50 split custody right down the middle...she gets monthly payments from him. It's not much, but point still stands.
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