re: Flight 800 crash animation

Eye witness accounts of anything are highly inaccurate for the most part

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doubt it, but a lot of people on the Navy side who were involved in the accident had to know. There had to be a lot of guilty consciences.

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That many guilty consciences cannot keep a secret. Plus, light travels faster than sound so anybody on the beach would have seen the flash prior to hearing the explosion. That doesn’t make it a missile.

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Top secret stuff will always get a smoke screen and cover-up.

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Doesn't always have to be top secret

During Desert Storm I was a contractor in SA. Two incidents I can remember off the top of my head.

First one was a AF Reserve KC-135 that lost two engines off of the same wing mid flight. Official storyline said they hit an air pocket and went into an uncontrolled dive. Pullout caused excess g's and the pylon to engine mounts broke. Plane landed (terrific job by the aircrew) but blew out the majority of the tires on landing.
Found out later on the real story was the pilot bet co-pilot they could exceed official top speed of a tanker and the excessive g pull out exceeded engine mount bolts limit, and at the bottom of their dive two of the engines tore off and kept going.

Second incident was a midair between a KC-135 and an F-111 from either RAF Upper Heyford or Lakenheath. Official story was F-111 finished top off of fuel and hit air pocket causing collision between the two birds.
Funny thing is when a plane drops off from a refuel they drop back and roll off allowing the next bird to position on the tanker. So why did the 111 collide with the front cockpit area of the tanker?

REAL story was the pilot of the 111 went to college with the pilot or co of the tanker. Wanted to show off for his bud so when they came off the refueling probe they went to full afterburner in order to go under the tanker and then pull up in front of the nose in a vertical climb. What the pilot didn't count on was the slipstream coming off the the tanker pulled his bird up and into the tanker as he moved towards the front of the tanker. ( Think the vacuum of an 18-wheeler semi that pulls you towards it when you pass on the interstate).
The wing of the 111 scraped across the front / crew area of the tanker so hard it literally left the brown and green camo paint of the 111 across the pilots side and nose of the grey KC tanker, as well as scorching/melting part of the cockpit area.
Both planes landed at their respective airfields safely but it could have easily been an aeronautical disaster for both.

When I left months after Desert Storm was over both the KC's were in hangers still on the base. Word had it the US was trying to sell them to the Saudi's at one hell of a bargain. ;)

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So there was a live fire missile zone testing new secret technology.... (checks notes)...in the transatlantic flight path immediately off the coast of....(checks notes).... New York?

Did you even stop for one microsecond to see how absolutely asinine that entire premise is?

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One could make a similar argument against the DC plane/helicopter crash report.

I don't know what the truth is, but the report is inconsistent with what many people alleged to have witnessed. If it happened intentionally or by accident it's plausible that it could have been covered up. Much easier to deny this in 1996 before smart phones were a thing.

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Get it burning and it will burn hot but it’s hard to ignite initially without proper vaporization and heat.

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The AC units on this 747 were directly below the center fuel tanks. TWA 800 was late to push back by more than an hour. It was the middle of July. The ACs were cranking and working hard in the summer heat. The NTSB ran a test flight with the same scenario and discovered the AC units reached 350 degrees and the heat caused the temp inside the fuel tank to reach 127 degrees. Almost 30 degrees above the flash point.

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Not sure what else to say here.

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Probably nothing.

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Your thing sounds a lot like jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel in a twin tower.

just messing. I don't remember this accident. Horrible though. Goodness.

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I'm old and had a lot of family on Long Island at the time. Brother in law had his ocean fishing boat near his house and close to the crash site. He kept his ship to shore radio on a lot to talk to his fishing buddies and get tips to where the good spots were. His fishing buddies out on the water said a missile just shot down an airliner.

He took his boat out and spent the night pulling bodies from the water.

PS. Did a little work on a high rise apartment fire some years ago. The fire was nothing but furniture, carpeting and such, but the whole floor was gutted and there was a photograph of twisted steel beams. The whole building was condemend.

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hen why did the front of the plane break off way in front of the explosion and not at the point of the explosion?

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leave the rest of the aircraft to happily continue flying along.

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all of the control surfaces still intact and engines running, it would "fly" for a bit

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I don't recall this happening.

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they required inspection of wiring harnesses in the fuel tanks of all Boeing wide bodies to be inspected and require the fuel pumps in center tanks to be turned off with 1000lbs. remaining to allow the scavenge system to capture the rest