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re: Fired IT employees sue LSU

Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58820 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:30 pm to
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would expect LSU to run on hamsters running on a wheel.
and it's still ranked higher than Kentucky
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35444 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:41 pm to
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Bankston suspects that LSU hierarchy wanted to get rid of the Illinois IT specialists because of their criticism of the university relying on an IBM mainframe that is no longer supported by IBM and must be repaired with parts found on eBay.


So if you complain to your bosses about having old equipment and your boss fires you...that’s against the law... and you can file a lawsuit?

Wish the state could save the money on the lawsuits to buy new computer equipment.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22447 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:43 pm to
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fricking COBOL?


There's still PLENTY of COBOL out there esp. handling batch processes. Things that have worked for 30+ years that folks are too afraid to touch. You'd be amazed.

ETA after I posted this and scanned the thread, I learned that there are a lot of other old farts on the O-T.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:46 pm to
The old farts be loving COBOL
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41501 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:49 pm to
From what I understand, Cobol is considered more secure because so few people know how to use it. That means no one is writing viruses in that language and no one knows how to crack that programming. Also you can basically demand whatever pay and benefits you want if you're a great Cobol programmer.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22447 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:51 pm to
I came up on COBOL back during the ice age. Thought it would die before me. Not yet.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43844 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:52 pm to
I work for a software company. We have customers that refuse to upgrade, but have to due to being able to replace Windows NT and Windows 98 machines.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 5:54 pm to
Yeah, it’s still reliable and there are very few that know the language so they can demand high salary.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8662 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:04 pm to
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You'd have to pay an entry level developer at least double their market value to get them to come in and learn COBOL

You'd end up with a bunch of Indians cruising around Mumbai with Louisiana license plates.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20620 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:05 pm to
Send the AG after them and hard
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52919 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:08 pm to
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I work for a software company. We have customers that refuse to upgrade, but have to due to being able to replace Windows NT and Windows 98 machines

You'll have a hard time finding a new pc that will run Windows 7 now. I worked on NT quite a bit early in my career though
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37318 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:08 pm to
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no longer supported by IBM and must be repaired with parts found on eBay. It uses the outdated programming language of COBOL. The 43-year-old computer system

So the same system that runs TigerDroppings?
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 8:09 pm
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24832 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:24 pm to
These people all broke LSU policy and state law and now have the gumption to sue LSU. As alumni if I where LSU I would let loose the dogs of war.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14237 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:40 pm to
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The 43-year-old computer system 

1976?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25826 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:44 pm to
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If true this is malfeasance going back through multiple administrations.



It's true. I know people who run payroll for LSU. Say mainframe looks like something out of a "sci-fi movie made in the 80s"
Posted by mctiger1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3695 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:57 pm to
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You'd have to pay an entry level developer at least double their market value to get them to come in and learn COBOL.

Haven't had any problems yet bringing in college graduates for COBOL in BR.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24832 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:58 pm to
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If true this is malfeasance going back through multiple administrations.


Not really, there are pros and cons to custom systems versus off the shelf. That LSU sis is completely customized for LSU. You will never get that with Banner or Peoplesoft. And workday’s sis is vapored are compared to those two products. The problem was not the cobol or customer package, the problem is not having an upgrade path and support the product.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:00 pm
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30231 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:28 pm to
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And workday’s sis is vapored are compared to those two products.


Assuming you meant vapor ware there.....that's a real stretch. It's not as mature as their HR and Financials but folks like UT Austin, OSU, and the U don't but vaporware.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24832 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:32 pm to
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Assuming you meant vapor ware there.....that's a real stretch. It's not as mature as their HR and Financials but folks like UT Austin, OSU, and the U don't but vaporware.



Sorry for the typo. Yes vaporware in comparison to Banner and Peoplesoft, both products are much more mature than Workday. I was not suggesting that the Workday product is vaporware in the truest since of the term. I was surprised that people decided to go with Workday given the much better and more mature products on the market that would integrate with the SIS.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22447 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:33 pm to
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I worked on NT quite a bit early in my career though


NT 4.0 was a goddamn tank of an OS. Best Windows OS ever.
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