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re: Fire, Shooting at Mormon Church in Michigan

Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:06 am to
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:06 am to
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I wonder why
you know why.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:13 am to
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This thread is done because it doesn't fit the narrative.


Seems to be a crazy nut job with a personal issue, hope he's burning in hell.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:18 am to
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hope he's burning in hell.
I'm sure he is.

This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 6:30 am
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:58 am to
Is this where I pay a late night person in an attempt to gas light and fan flames, or does that happen later? I'm just trying to figure out where we are in the Jimmy Kimmel / Alex Jones timeline.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 7:17 am to
When do we get the telethon for the deceased?
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 7:17 am to
They're already paid to do that. Same for our 24/7 news channels.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 7:21 am to
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Momons trying to escape LDS probably hate Mormons more than Muslims do.
U R dum and wrong

PS: what are “Momons”?
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 7:33 am to
No idea. We still don't have a final number on how many he killed yet.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 7:38 am
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 7:41 am to
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Thomas Jacob Sanford a Marine veteran. This thread is done because it doesn't fit the narrative.


But we haven’t ruled out the Jews
Posted by Dickaroos
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:18 am to
Fake picture moron. How easily you fools are fooled.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:17 am to
A casual glance at the usual suspects on Twitter after this happened was pretty revealing

They all used the same verbiage, same buzz words, ready to rile people up even more
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:21 am to
So it appears this isn't political as Mormons wouldn't be what sets off a right wing person. Has to be personal, right?

Unless I'm missing some stance/belief the Mormons have that would ignite this man, politically.

This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 11:22 am
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:26 am to
From an article this morning. So far they've said he hated Mormons, but haven't given any further details on motive.

quote:

GRAND BLANC TOWNSHIP, Michigan (AP) — Police officers searched the charred ruins of a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sanctuary in Michigan on Monday, a day after a former Marine opened fire during a crowded service, killing at least four people and setting the building ablaze.

Eight others were wounded in the attack and authorities have said they were looking for more victims.

A silver pickup truck with two American flags mounted on its bed remained where it had smashed into the front brick wall of the church where hundreds had gathered in Grand Blanc Township, outside Flint, before the gunman got out and started shooting.

The attacker apparently used gas to start the fire and also had explosive devices but it wasn’t clear if he used them, said James Dier of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Authorities identified the shooter as Thomas Jacob Sanford, 40, of the neighboring town of Burton. The FBI is leading the investigation and considered it an “act of targeted violence,” said Ruben Coleman, a special agent in charge for the bureau.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said investigators were looking into how much planning went into the attack.

“From what I understand, based on my conversations with the FBI director, all they know right now is this was an individual who hated people of the Mormon faith,” she said Monday during an interview on Fox News Channel’s “Fox and Friends.”

Officers responding to a 911 call were at the church within 30 seconds, Police Chief William Renye told reporters. After the suspect left the church, two officers pursued him and “engaged in gunfire,” killing him about eight minutes later, the chief said.

Flames and smoke poured from the large church for hours before the blaze was extinguished. The fire gutted nearly all of the building, consuming its towering white steeple and sanctuary — only its outer walls and a few side rooms remained standing.

Two bodies were found during a search of the debris, and Renye said more victims could be found as searchers made their way through the entire church. One of the wounded people was in critical condition Sunday evening and the seven others were stable.

Renye said “some” people were unaccounted for, but he did not have an exact number.


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Investigators deployed a robot while searching Sanford’s residence but authorities did not say what they found or provide any additional details about him, including whether he had any connection to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, widely known as the Mormon church.

According to records released by the Marine Corps, Sanford served for four years during the early years of the global war on terror. He enlisted in 2004 and was discharged in 2008 at the rank of sergeant. During his enlistment, Sanford held two different job specialties that focused on vehicle operations and maintenance — neither of which are likely to have exposed him to any type of specialized explosives or munitions training.

He deployed once to Iraq for seven months and was awarded a Good Conduct Medal, indicating three years of service without any major infractions.
The shooting was the latest of many shooting attacks on houses of worship in the U.S. over the past 20 years, including one in August that killed two children during Mass at the Church of the Annunciation in Minneapolis.

It also was the second mass shooting in the U.S. in less than 24 hours. On Saturday night, a man in a boat opened fire on a crowd in Southport, North Carolina, killing three and injuring five.


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President Donald Trump applauded the FBI for its response to the Michigan shooting in a social media post. Local authorities said the FBI was sending 100 agents to Grand Blanc Township, a community of roughly 40,000 people.

“PRAY for the victims, and their families. THIS EPIDEMIC OF VIOLENCE IN OUR COUNTRY MUST END, IMMEDIATELY!” Trump wrote.

The church building, circled by a parking lot and a large lawn, is near residential areas and a Jehovah’s Witness church.

The shooting occurred the morning after Russell M. Nelson, the oldest-ever president of the Utah-based faith, died at 101. The next president is expected to be Dallin H. Oaks, per church protocol.

“The church is in communication with local law enforcement as the investigation continues and as we receive updates on the condition of those affected,” spokesperson Doug Anderson said.

“Places of worship are meant to be sanctuaries of peacemaking, prayer and connection. We pray for peace and healing for all involved.”

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Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:30 am to
There’s an article from the Detroit Free Press right now. Apparently there was a guy canvassing to run for city council, and he visited the shooter’s home last week.

He said he was a really nice guy but that he was asking a lot of questions about Mormons, eventually declaring the religion as “the antichrist”

Grain of salt, of course, but he sounds like he had some screws loose and got fixated on the LDS. Religious psychosis meets a marine with an arsenal and a plan - bad stuff happens.
Posted by Dickaroos
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:31 am to
White conservative Christians killed while worshipping God. Well obviously it was a white Christian conservative that killed them because of their beliefs! - the left

I really missed out on MAGA hating White Christian conservatives
I just don’t believe that’s part of their party’s platform

And why would they need to photoshop his picture? No reason to fake support if he’s actually what they say he is. ( he isn’t )
Posted by ATrillionaire
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:36 am to
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So it appears this isn't political as Mormons wouldn't be what sets off a right wing person. Has to be personal, right?

Key words to grab hold of should be "hate" and "violence". It's sad that these stories are only amplified when it's one political gang vs the other.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:59 am to
The CIA MKUltra'd this guy.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:17 pm to
**Updated**
Appears this is NOT the original

Seeing that the Trump shirt is the original so I deleted this one
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:30 pm to
Poor stupid liberals

Amazing how wrong they are!
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:34 pm to
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