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re: Fire reported at Motiva plant in Convent, LA

Posted on 8/11/16 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 12:59 pm to
There are fail safe valves that require a constant air signal to stay open or closed depending on the needed action. If the signal is lost, the valve FAILS in a SAFE position.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 12:59 pm to
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before you get hurt
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

I may or may not have the P&IDs for that unit in front of me right now


What's the design pressure?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:00 pm to
To all the operators and engineers who have posted in this thread:

Thanks for the insight and stay safe fellas
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7569 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:00 pm to
Yup

The valves will be selected to fail on loss of air or control signal appropriately.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66066 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:01 pm to
Ohh no! Shaking in my office
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:01 pm to
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It's an ebulating bed hydrocracker. Only a handful of those in the world. Hydrocracker on steroids. Cracks the absolute heaviest crude bottoms using hi hi pressure. I think above 3000# pressure unit.


How long would something like this stay off line and what affects would it have on the rest of the plant?

Assuming they determine the cause relatively quickly and work on bringing it back on line.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7569 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:02 pm to
Can't really discuss specifics. I like my job
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:04 pm to
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But can you give a speech, tap dance and administer fat lips all at the exact same time? Edit: I forgot to add dishing out empty threats on the internet. My bad.


This thread is like a microcosm of the best and the worst of the OT.

Great place to disseminate useful information in a timely manner, but you'll have to wade through mounds of useless horseshite from pointless bickering in order to find it.
Posted by bababooey
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:04 pm to
It's about time you experienced the fear you have put into all of us throughout this thread.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:05 pm to
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To all the operators


quote:

Thanks


That's why they get paid the "big bucks."
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
15072 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:06 pm to
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The plant is surrounded by a lot of green space and no close neighbors.


I can see the plant from my backyard.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8292 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

I can see the plant from my backyard.


I can see your cancer from here
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:13 pm to
Is it still burning?
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:14 pm to
Is it raining out in Convent?
Posted by Mr. Shankly
Redding and Marshall Rd
Member since Aug 2004
5552 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Only 1 unaccounted for now.

Nope, I made it out safely...

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66066 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

It's about time you experienced the fear you have put into all of us throughout this thread.



Please don't post pics of your wife
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:16 pm to
The plant itself should be able to stay online as long as the incident is just in that one unit. Crude and others may have to cut rate as they should have a way to route that heavy feed for eb bed to storage while its down. But I can't say for sure.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150244 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

can see the plant from my backyard.

thats very unfortunate
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