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re: Finding a decent job

Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by mglsu21
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2012
1277 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

Is it possible these days to get a good to decent job without having connections?


quote:

Fiance has a business in Baton Rouge


See if she is hiring?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
66100 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:12 pm to
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agree completely...new graduates bring no value at all to a company. not until a year or so into it does the company even break even on their investment.


This is false for a lot of industries, fwiw.

I billed over 2000 hours at $195/hour on average my first year out. And I didn't cost my employer $400k.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:22 pm to
You made $390 K out of college? In what industry?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35354 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:23 pm to
He said he billed that much, I doubt that he earned that much.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
66100 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:25 pm to
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You made $390 K out of college?


No, not even close. Which is why I didn't cost my employer as much as I billed.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:26 pm to
You made some headhunters day however.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:33 pm to
Try getting an internship with a shitty GPA. I've had two HR departments shut me down because of policy even though I knew the owner. Been denied probably 10 or 15 time strictly because of my GPA. I guess work experience doesn't mean shite when you're trying to get internships.

One of the companies I did multiple (4) interviews with shot me down for a dot Indian with a 4.0. They fired him a month and a half later because he couldn't do a damn thing without help, and they posted another ad online right after
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 6:39 pm
Posted by FavoriteAnon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
345 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 7:01 pm to
I am willing to bet if you know the owners of two companies and HR for both companies shut you down because of "policy" you either don't know them as well as you think you do and/or it is more of a character flaw than your gpa.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37053 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:53 pm to
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My experience(and I've got lots of it) has been that once you begin working in a job, it's not hard to find an angle you can exploit for job growth. This is true so long as you aren't a lazy, entitled, dumb frick. The trouble with people your age is that you think your degree entitles you to a cushy 6 figures the moment you leave school. Well, it doesn't work that way and it didn't work that way for me or any of my friends 20 years ago when we were in your boat. You don't realize that putting up with shite jobs fresh out of college is a rite of passage for nearly everyone.


Gotta agree here albeit you're a bit harsh. OP quit looking for a "decent" job and just take a job related to your degree. You'll be surprised how quickly you can move up or on once you start getting experience.
It really is the way it works for most people.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:12 pm to
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Try getting an internship with a shitty GPA. I've had two HR departments shut me down because of policy even though I knew the owner. Been denied probably 10 or 15 time strictly because of my GPA. I guess work experience doesn't mean shite when you're trying to get internships. One of the companies I did multiple (4) interviews with shot me down for a dot Indian with a 4.0. They fired him a month and a half later because he couldn't do a damn thing without help, and they posted another ad online right after


Yeah, something doesn't add up here. You stated you knew the owner. No one goes through HR, if you know the owner personally. HR is nothing more than a roadblock for most hiring managers that are seeking top talent.

Do you work in tech?
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 9:14 pm
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:12 pm to
Yeah, I wasn't buddy buddy with them, but they were friends of my parents. I have found that it is a lot harder getting an internship than a regular job. Almost every single time I've interviewed before my internship attempt, I've gotten a job. Never thought getting a non-number-crunching ME internship would be this hard. Dunno why people don't like cheap labor, but whatever.
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:42 pm to
using the word "BOOM" to describe the economic status of ANY city, business or sector of the economy is the "KISS OF DEATH" to that you are describing...
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:50 pm to
The OP needs to realize that most companies use a firewall "key word" filtering system that automatically dumps emails into a trash file that don't register expertise in a specific skill set. I bet his resume looks like shite.
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:55 pm to
No you can.

I just landed a great job, but I wouldn't have gotten my foot in the door at all if it wasn't for my experience. But I had to pay my dues at another company first.

You just got to find the right company and make the sacrifices necessary to gain the experience. (Whether it be moving, traveling a shite ton- like I had to do, not making as much money, etc.) It sucks because I have been where you are. I was guilty of getting out of school and wanted that big paying job now. It didn't work that way for me. The economy was like it is today.

You'll pull through man.

Are you dead set on getting a job with your background/degree or would you take something else or get any ideas?
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 10:01 pm
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21135 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:24 pm to
Marry up then start your own business.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Keeble9145
Member since Sep 2015
973 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:36 pm to
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Have you tried working with a recruiter? There are recruiters that specialize in specific industries.


Definitely will look into that.

Thanks.

To the rest:

I don't feel sorry for myself at all. And networking isn't the problem. Finding a job that can turn into a career is the problem. I don't have a problem with making 40,000-50,000 if I can grow with the position that I'm given. I've been graduated for a year, had a 3.0, good references, etc. The purpose of this was not to pout but simply find other ways of getting myself out there but of course the tools on this board twist it.
Posted by Keeble9145
Member since Sep 2015
973 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:39 pm to
I'm open to anything at this point lol
Posted by Keeble9145
Member since Sep 2015
973 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:44 pm to
quote:


Gotta agree here albeit you're a bit harsh. OP quit looking for a "decent" job and just take a job related to your degree. You'll be surprised how quickly you can move up or on once you start getting experience.
It really is the way it works for most people.


I have no problem with that. Just need the opportunity to prove myself and that's what I'm having trouble finding.
Posted by Keeble9145
Member since Sep 2015
973 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:47 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 9:43 am
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:12 pm to
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Finding a job that can turn into a career is the problem. I don't have a problem with making 40,000-50,000 if I can grow with the position that I'm given.


I really didn't mean to be particularly harsh more than make a point with my previous post. I'm saying that you can't possibly know a potential career right now if it bit you in the arse. I'm 42 years old and still don't know what I want to do for a living.

I really meant you should use your job to angle for growth. I'll be honest, $40-50k one year from graduated is just fine or even more than fine. If you suck it up and continue working with your current job, you might get some managerial experience, you might find that you could work for one of your vendors or even a customer. Don't keep jumping jobs because stability means more to future employers than you know. Do whatever you're doing well and always keep your eyes open for something better, growth within your company looks good on a resume.

Good luck, I don't envy that time in my life that I really didn't see how I was ever going to find a career. You reek of being young and I'm telling you that hard work and patience will eventually work itself out. Just be young and know your trepidation is warranted but it's part of growing up and paying your dues.
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