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Financial shares fall as Credit Suisse becomes latest crisis for the sector

Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:41 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:41 am
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Financial shares fall as Credit Suisse becomes latest crisis for the sector
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Key Points:

- Shares of the Swiss bank fell more than 20% after its biggest backer said it won’t provide further financial support.

-The move appeared to be hitting large and regional U.S. banks as well.

-While Credit Suisse’s struggles appear unrelated to the mid-tier U.S. banks, the combination of the two issues could spark a broader reexamination of the banking system among investors, according to Peter Boockvar of Bleakley Financial Group.


Bank stocks were under pressure on Wednesday as the sharp drop of Credit Suisse rattled a segment of the market that was already reeling from two large bank failures in the past week.

Shares of the Swiss bank fell more than 26% after its biggest backer said it won’t provide further financial support. Credit Suisse announced on Tuesday that it had found “material weakness” in its financial reporting process from prior years. Other European banks also slid, including a 10% drop for Deutsche Bank.

The move appeared to be hitting large U.S. banks as well. Shares of Wells Fargofell more than 4% and Citi dropped 5%, while Bank of America dipped 3%. JPMorgan and Goldman shed about 4% each.


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The fallout from the collapse of SVB could also lead to more regulation and rising costs for the U.S. banking sector, including the potential for higher fees to regulators to pay for deposit insurance.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21737 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:44 am to
I genuinely suck arse at understanding any of this bank shite. Always have, and it seems like I always will.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9375 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:45 am to
I still am not paying for a checking account.
Posted by TFSUXASS
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2023
65 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:53 am to
Saudis own 10%. They say that their own laws prohibit them from putting more cash in. That means CS will have to get cash elsewhere, probably by liquidating long term bonds that have lost a lot of value due to rises in rates.

That’s my grossly underinformed view.
Posted by dandyjohn
Member since Apr 2009
804 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:57 am to
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Always have, and it seems like I always will.


It's like that on purpose. It keeps common people out of their ranks, and it keeps common people from having a say.

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At some turning point in history some f face recognized knowledge tends to democratize
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4465 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:59 am to
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Saudis own 10%. They say that their own laws prohibit them from putting more cash in.


Media won’t cover this though. They’ll just spin it to make it sound like their largest shareholder just said no. Big difference
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25342 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:01 am to
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Media won’t cover this though. They’ll just spin it to make it sound like their largest shareholder just said no. Big difference



Yep.

There's been some buzz about Credit Suisse for a while. So they know people were already kind of on heightened awareness even before the bank failures in the US.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37615 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:05 am to
Credit Suisse's issues have been known for a long time......still they are too big to fail
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72937 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:10 am to
The banking system is collapsing. Part of the impending turnover to a global digital currency.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:44 am to
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genuinely suck arse at understanding any of this bank shite. Always have, and it seems like I always will.


All you need to know is no recession happens by accident and the elites will suck your money from you one way or another
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:58 am to
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Credit Suisse's issues have been known for a long time......still they are too big to fail


The rumors of CS demise have been around for several years now.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36352 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:02 am to
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I genuinely suck arse at understanding any of this bank shite. Always have, and it seems like I always will.


I always like to remind people of this, makes me laugh

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The chief executive of Goldman Sachs, which has attracted widespread media attention over the size of its staff bonuses, believes banks serve a social purpose and are doing “God’s work.”


Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98180 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:17 am to
Wall Street: This completely unrelated issue will cause me to panic and sell my shares.

Also Wall Street: This bad economic news is actually good economic news. Buy!
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90570 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:27 am to
The crash is coming and it will make the 1930s look like child’s play


Get your cash out now and buy gold/silver and ammo plus non perishables
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72061 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:31 am to
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Wall Street: This completely unrelated issue will cause me to panic and sell my shares.

Also Wall Street: This bad economic news is actually good economic news. Buy!
What has been killing me is that, for the previous 2 years, every financial report is titled “______ is stoking recession fears”.

The market just keeps stoking those fears.

Apparently, it is impossible to actually enter a recession.

This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 11:32 am
Posted by WAC13
Member since Jan 2017
508 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:36 am to
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It's like that on purpose. It keeps common people out of their ranks, and it keeps common people from having a say.


As someone who works in finance this is spot on. They try to be cryptic with terminology making sure the average joe thinks learning about financial markets, banking, interest rates, etc is way over their head.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53911 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:36 am to
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The crash is coming

Well, it certainly is if this becomes the prevailing thought/action:
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Get your cash out now and buy gold/silver and ammo plus non perishables

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Similar to people crying that they couldn't find toilet paper when in the background of the video shot Marge and her boy Gary were pushing two carts full of the shite to the checkout counter. Or, when there was a "meat shortage" that just coincidentally happened to coincide with the deep freezer boom. I'm still mourning because now is about the time that a bunch of women who never cooked start throwing out pounds of freezer burned pork chops and steak.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 11:39 am
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12485 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:42 am to
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The rumors of CS demise have been around for several years now.

this.

And i usually hear them from CS employees.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7763 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:52 am to
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Financial shares fall as Credit Suisse becomes latest crisis for the sector
The banking system is collapsing. Part of the impending turnover to a global digital currency.


Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98180 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:57 am to
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As someone who works in finance this is spot on. They try to be cryptic with terminology making sure the average joe thinks learning about financial markets, banking, interest rates, etc is way over their head.





Every profession does this. Law, medicine, etc. And yes, it is deliberate.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 12:04 pm
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