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re: Finally some hard news on St. George’s appeal.

Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
2591 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:38 pm to
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the same section of law that gives themn the right to incorporate gives surrounding communities the right to try to block the incorporation.


Winner winner chicken dinner.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36047 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:09 pm to
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I agree, but the same section of law that gives themn the right to incorporate gives surrounding communities the right to try to block the incorporation.


Please note, BR isn’t suing, EBR isn’t suing; Broome and Cole are suing without the backing of the CP Council. They are suing as individuals. Why is that?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5711 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:28 pm to
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I agree, but the same section of law that gives themn the right to incorporate gives surrounding communities the right to try to block the incorporation.


I thought right to incorporating or home rule was built into constitution while giving the state legislature the ability to set and regulate the process which does currently include a way for some to challenge process on basis of being handled incorrectly and its unreasonableness.

I don’t see how in good faith an unbiased judge or court can view StG as unreasonable but didn’t do the same with Central. There are possibly issues with decision with BR, Baker, and Zachary incorporated, but I think they formed under a different validity test.
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The district court shall determine whether there has been full compliance with the provisions of this Subpart, including the accuracy of the statements in the petition and of the certification of the registrar of voters. The court shall also reach a determination as to whether the municipality can in all probability provide the proposed public services within a reasonable period of time and whether the incorporation is reasonable. In determining whether the incorporation is reasonable, the court shall consider the possible adverse effects the incorporation may have on other municipalities in the vicinity.


Baton Rouge refusing to adjust their own taxes to continue using the parish sales tax collected within StG for expenses within city limits doesn’t make a great case for StG being unreasonable and seems pretty unreasonable in itself.

Either StG is reasonable or it appears the merged metro/parish govt’s actions or collusion that have caused StG to be unreasonable for city of Baton Rouge are going against the state constitution - “No parish plan of government or home rule charter shall prohibit the incorporation of a city, town, or village as provided by general law.”

Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49672 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:00 pm to
As the first mayor of St. George, I promise to outlaw drag racing, donuts and loud crappy music.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:24 pm to
I really think the City of BR and the Parish form of government need to split.
What is happening now is the council protects the City of BR first.
It should be the other way around the welfare of the parish become first and the City of BR is on the back burner.
Posted by brickyard
Member since Jan 2007
534 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:20 am to
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As the first mayor of St. George, I promise to outlaw drag racing, donuts and loud crappy music.


If you add crack down on people littering and get rid of the bums, you'll win with 90% of the vote.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24358 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:25 am to
Pretty clear this whole thing is a great money making idea for the lawyers who started it. They get to goto court forever fighting it, both sides get paid and the people get nothing on the end except their tax dollars wasted.

It’s such a classic Louisiana situation.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20338 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:05 pm to
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I really think the City of BR and the Parish form of government need to split.


Honestly I think that's the eventual plan, but gotta get this out of the way first.

I still can't believe that after doing everything the way we were supposed to do it, and winning an actual election, one activist judge can end it all with the stroke of a pen.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36047 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:25 pm to
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Pretty clear this whole thing is a great money making idea for the lawyers who started it. They get to goto court forever fighting it, both sides get paid and the people get nothing on the end except their tax dollars wasted.
It’s such a classic Louisiana situation.


You obviously haven’t followed this closely. Private citizens are suing private citizens.

Now Broome may have gotten public employees to do research for her case, but no tax dollars are going to her lawyers. No tax dollars are going to Browning or Rials’ lawyers either.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 3:57 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36047 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:26 pm to
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I still can't believe that after doing everything the way we were supposed to do it, and winning an actual election, one activist judge can end it all with the stroke of a pen.

He can’t, the appeals process prevents that.
Posted by JudgeRoyBean
West of the Pecos
Member since Jun 2018
525 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:46 pm to
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NAACP officials: Baton Rouge needs its own city council again; here's why


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The NAACP and other community leaders are simply asking that an item be placed on the election ballot allowing the voters an opportunity to decide on whether the City of Baton Rouge with over a 65 percent minority population can have its own city council like it was in the past.


Baton Rouge NAACP agrees too. This was from July 2018 when the St. George signatures were being collected.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36047 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:54 pm to
Go your own way....
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5711 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:49 pm to
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I really think the City of BR and the Parish form of government need to split.


It makes sense to split today just as it made sense for it form over 70 years ago. In 1950 BR made up 79% of parish population (125,629 of 158,236 total parish population). In 2020 BR made up 49.8% of parish population (227,470 of 456,781 total parish population).

It should have never been thought of as permanent.
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