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re: Finally, a voice of reason

Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:33 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:33 am to
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it's your assertion that there are absolutely no police officers in the entire country that are treating people of color harsher than white people. n


No. You made that up.

You left wingers are incapable of seeing beyond extremes. No nuance, no moderate ground. If someone doesnt think exactly like you, they're wong..

Theres bias in any profession, but it's not nearly as "systematic" as you have been programmed to think.

Btw: there are studies to back this up put out by "PHD'S"
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:52 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:35 am to
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You left wingers are incapable of seeing beyond extremes.
I love the 2nd amendment argument “well what about nukes!?!?!”
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:37 am to
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No. You made that up.





few posts up

quote:

People have been force fed this shite, sociology is nothing but marxism legitimized.

Cops arent out to exterminate black people, and white guilt is nothing more than true racism projected.


yep made it all up nice deflection though


So give me your number man how much is acceptable. I'll even admit i was wrong and you don't think it's not happening

my bad, my apologies

but seriously how much is acceptable. I'm waiting.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24958 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:41 am to
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Is he?

Now that you found a former African American police officer you agreed with you should go read the multitude of books written by African American people who have PHDs in history and disagree with him.

or are you really not interested in different opinions? Just the ones that fit your narrative?


I agree with him because he makes sense.
Tell me your differing opinion's and we could discuss.
I am guessing you are black, that is why you brought his color into this conversation. I never did. Why does someone always try to make this about race? Why should any person get special treatment because of skin color?
Regardless of his skin color, I agree with his opinion.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:45 am to
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Why does someone always try to make this about race? Why should any person get special treatment because of skin color?


OP asks this but forgets his OP said this

quote:

"Officer Tatum" is a black former police officer


Nice gotcha try but you started the conversation that way Not I sir. Feel free to go edit it now if you would like
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86750 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:47 am to
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that is why you brought his color into this conversation. I never did.




quote:

"Officer Tatum" is a black former police officer
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:47 am to
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You left wingers are incapable of seeing beyond extremes. No nuance, no moderate ground. If someone doesnt think exactly like you, they're wong..



That's wacist.
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
2260 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:54 am to
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and before you throw out statistics on (insert other crime or statistic here to deflect from the issue I brought up) Let me remind you I am asking about the fact some police treat people of color harsher than white people.

not any other issue. not one. just that one.



or are you really not interested in facts? Just the opinions and strawmen that fit your narrative?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:55 am to
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give me your number man how much is acceptable


More white people are killed by cop than black people.

There are studies that burst your bubble, if you're actually interested.

Congrats on being myopic.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:03 pm to
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More white people are killed by cop than black people.

There are studies that burst your bubble, if you're actually interested.

Congrats on being myopic.




Nothing to do with what i asked...not one thing.

still haven't answered my question though it was simple

What percentage of police treating people of color harsher than white people during encounters are you okay with.

obviously its at least a little. The answer should be 0 easily but you won't say it will you.

I wonder why not?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

What percentage of police treating people of color harsher than white people during encounters are you okay with. 


Studies show this isnt the issue you pretend it is
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

or are you really not interested in facts? Just the opinions and strawmen that fit your narrative?


So are you saying it isn't a fact that there are police officers that will treat people of color harsher than white people?

Because that is the fact I'm talking about.

the other facts you are referencing has nothing the one above. They are just different facts. There can be more than one fact about different things. Do you not know how numbers work?

Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67028 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

What percentage of police treating people of color harsher than white people during encounters are you okay with.

obviously its at least a little.

Are you ok with the Atlanta mayor firing the cops less than 24 hours after the incident?
Are you ok with city councils wanting to rid of ENTIRE police forces, based on the actions of 1 or 2 street patrolmen?
Were you fine watching the Reginald Denny attack during the LA riots of 1992?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:09 pm to
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Studies show this isnt the issue you pretend it is


So you are saying it's not happening. funny just above you said i was putting words in your mouth when i said you didn't think it was happening.

Man i keep up is it happening or not

If you think it isn't that's fine. I mean if you want to ignore the multitude of Americans telling you it is and video evidence that shows it that's on you.

But even if it is a small issue you can still give me a number. 2% hell .5% you would have to be okay with some of it you keep if you keep defending it.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Are you ok with the Atlanta mayor firing the cops less than 24 hours after the incident?
Are you ok with city councils wanting to rid of ENTIRE police forces, based on the actions of 1 or 2 street patrolmen?
Were you fine watching the Reginald Denny attack during the LA riots of 1992?


No
No
No

see i can answer questions it's easy even ones that have nothing to do with the one I asked.

Your turn though since you want to play. What percentage of police treating people of color harsher than white people are you okay with. I have given up on Roger giving me a straight answer
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24521 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:13 pm to
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So it's your assertion that there are absolutely no police officers in the entire country that are treating people of color harsher than white people. none at all...In the whole country

How in the world did you leap to that conclusion from what he said?
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3407 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

You left wingers are incapable of seeing beyond extremes. No nuance, no moderate ground. 
Stop, I can only take so much irony.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118274 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:21 pm to
I don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish in this thread, but each of your posts are more embarrassing than the last.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:33 pm to
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I don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish in this thread, but each of your posts are more embarrassing than the last.


really I was just asking a question that no one has yet to give my an answer to. I didn't realize it was such a hard question to answer.

But I guess it is a two part question, that may have gotten muddied. So Ill ask you since you felt the need to comment on my post

1) Do you feel there are law enforcement officers that treat people of color harsher in police encounters than they would a white person in the same instance.

2) if the answer to question one above is yes, how much of that occurrence are you okay accepting as a permanent reality of life in the United States?

two very simple questions
So hard to get a straight answer on for some reason.

Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67028 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:39 pm to
Let’s ask you some more questions
Do you think cops treat all blacks the same, or is it based on the individual situation?
Are you ok with black cops mistreating white suspects more harshly?
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