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Few TOPS recipients enrolled in associate degree programs needed for high paying jobs
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:37 pm
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Louisiana spends about $300 million annually for students to receive free tuition through TOPS, but most of those students won’t earn the credentials needed for well-paying jobs, The Town Talk reports.
“Over 50 percent of the high-wage, high-demand jobs in this state will require an associate’s degree, not a four-degree,” Commissioner of Higher Education Joe Rallo says. “And there are very few TOPS recipients in associate degree programs.”
Rallo spoke about the workforce dilemma at a Higher Education Summit hosted this week by Central Louisiana Economic Development Alliance, highlighting what could be viewed as a disconnect in state government spending and the needs of employers.
For $191 million, the state could pay tuition for all students enrolled in community and technical colleges, Rallo says. That’s where students are enrolling in two-year degree and certificate programs as an increasing number of Louisiana jobs require more than a high school education—but less than a bachelor’s degree.
“What’s the purpose of TOPS? If the purpose of TOPS is to allow students to go to college, that’s great,” Rallo says. “But if the purpose of TOPS is to align what they’re taking in college with the needs of the industry and business, there has to be some change.”
Baton Rouge Business Report
Wonder what jobs are making up 50% of the high wage, high demand jobs in the state
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:38 pm to SPEEDY
No high paying job requires a 2-year unless you are Merlin with a fricking keyboard.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:40 pm to 50_Tiger
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No high paying job requires a 2-year unless you are Merlin with a fricking keyboard.
A lot of those don't require a degree at all. I work with software developers that are college dropouts and make over 100k. They just get a bunch of certifications
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:41 pm to 50_Tiger
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No high paying job requires a 2-year unless you are Merlin with a fricking keyboard.
RNs can still get by with the associate programs and start around $45k-$50k.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:41 pm to SPEEDY
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“Over 50 percent of the high-wage, high-demand jobs in this state will require an associate’s degree, not a four-degree,”
So a 2 year degree in chemistry trumps a 4 year degree in chemistry or chemical engineering? hmmmm. Not so sure about that one.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:42 pm to SPEEDY
Sounds like he just wants to gut the program and send everyone to Community College rather than 4-year University. I've never heard of a "well paying" job that prefers an associates to a bachelors.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:44 pm to jdeval1
TOPS should be structured in a manner that does not pay until a student successfully passes the classes they are enrolled.
Too much money is wasted paying the tuition of kids who eventually fail and lose TOPS eligibility after the semester.
Make the students have some skin in the game so they have an incentive to stay in class and actually study
Too much money is wasted paying the tuition of kids who eventually fail and lose TOPS eligibility after the semester.
Make the students have some skin in the game so they have an incentive to stay in class and actually study
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:47 pm to SPEEDY
All I know is that the politicians can’t fricking stand that there is a giant pot of money that they aren’t allowed to mess with. It keeps them up at night. Last time they tried to fool with it, Taylor’s widow told them “hands off” or she would pull all the money and the hacks could answer to their voters. That scared the shite out of them.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:50 pm to jdeval1
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I work with software developers that are college dropouts and make over 100k. They just get a bunch of certifications
Software developer, yes. Software engineer, no.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:53 pm to Jones
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not necessarily true
Outside of IT, I challenge you to find me a job at any Telecom, Power Systems, or Semi-Conductor company that doesn't require a 4 year.
Since this is tOT, don't be cute and link me a janitor or tier 1 call center job either.
No offense to the other person but 40-50k isn't high paying in today's economy.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:54 pm to 50_Tiger
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Outside of IT, I challenge you to find me a job at any Telecom, Power Systems, or Semi-Conductor company that doesn't require a 4 year.
I didnt realize you were being very specific
I was just talking in general about high paying jobs not requiring a 4 year degree
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:55 pm to 50_Tiger
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Outside of IT, I challenge you to find me a job at any Telecom, Power Systems, or Semi-Conductor company that doesn't require a 4 year.
That's a narrow as frick challenge.
quote:Classic OT. For a single income, it's not bad at all.
No offense to the other person but 40-50k isn't high paying in today's economy.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:56 pm to Jones
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I didnt realize you were being very specific
I was just talking in general about high paying jobs not requiring a 4 year degree
Fair Enough.
Typically it's just easy to look at STEM-related jobs and realize for about 95% of those industries, a 2 year is toilet paper.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:57 pm to LNCHBOX
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That's a narrow as frick challenge.
For the sake of not getting LNCH'd before I leave work, I can assure you there are a plethora of jobs within these three fields. It's not as narrow as you think.
40-50k would be considered poor in Dallas.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:58 pm to SPEEDY
Just noticed this is in Baton Rouge Business Report so now I seriously doubt the objectivity or truthfulness of the story. They used to run good stories but that guy has gone off the rails in the last couple of years. Printing political shite more like Gravy’s web site than hard news stories. frick him.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:59 pm to 50_Tiger
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For the sake of not getting LNCH'd before I leave work, I can assure you there are a plethora of jobs within these three fields. It's not as narrow as you think.
I love how you act like I'm the person that is being difficult when you're the one that arbitrarily narrowed the field
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40-50k would be considered poor in Dallas.
Household median is roughly $60k in Dallas. A single earner making $50k is doing just fine But yea, I'm the one trolling.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:00 pm to LNCHBOX
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I love how you act like I'm the person that is being difficult when you're the one that arbitrarily narrowed the field
I am not being difficult at all
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Household median is roughly $60k in Dallas.
Is that north or south of I-30.
Context bud.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:00 pm to SPEEDY
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but most of those students won’t earn the credentials needed for well-paying jobs,
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require an associate’s degree, not a four-degree
So the point is that they're getting too much education?
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