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re: Feds Want to Lower Legal Driving Limit to One Drink
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:17 am to SSpaniel
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:17 am to SSpaniel
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I have no problem with this.
I'd also add the following:
1st DUI = One Year in Jail. No ifs, ands or buts.
2nd DUI = Two Years
3rd DUI = Six Years
4th DUI = You aren't ever getting out of jail. Ever.
I'm biased, though, because two of my daughters best friends were killed by a drunk driver back in May.
People that drink and drive are just idiots.
People who equate all different levels of drinking and driving are also idiots. Very sorry for your loss and I understand that your position is driven by emotion, but that's a very big problem. It's irrational and illogical and is no basis for creating laws that mandate prison time.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 10:18 am
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:32 am to CAD703X
Google cars can't get here soon enough.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:34 am to CAD703X
What people forget about Drunk Driving is that most deaths from driving impaired are WAY OVER .08
And it's not 0.15 was most of the accidents, it's like .25 and higher were the cause of most accidents, but you can NEVER find that information because people in the media don't want to give people the inclination that it's okay to drink a "lil bit"
That's why the limit use to be 0.16 BAC, but just like the no-smoking people, they continue to chip away, til they get what they can, then putting fear into the next generation of kids, wait for them to grow-up a bit, and then chip away some more, until they achieve their Utopian smoke and alcohol free world
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drunk driving deaths (7,145 or 70 percent) involved drivers with a blood alcohol content (BAC) of .15 or higher.
And it's not 0.15 was most of the accidents, it's like .25 and higher were the cause of most accidents, but you can NEVER find that information because people in the media don't want to give people the inclination that it's okay to drink a "lil bit"
That's why the limit use to be 0.16 BAC, but just like the no-smoking people, they continue to chip away, til they get what they can, then putting fear into the next generation of kids, wait for them to grow-up a bit, and then chip away some more, until they achieve their Utopian smoke and alcohol free world
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:35 am to Darth_Vader
quote:There is absolutely no way you can know this. Especially if "drunk" is defined by approximately 2 drinks.
I see this a whole lot more than I do drunk drivers.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:38 am to SSpaniel
quote:I drink and drive pretty regularly. I had a drink with dinner last night and then drove my family home. Why does that make me an idiot?
People that drink and drive are just idiots.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:38 am to Kujo
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quote: drunk driving deaths (7,145 or 70 percent) involved drivers with a blood alcohol content (BAC) of .15 or higher.
30% is still a huge number, and I bet they fell between .08 and .15
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:40 am to CAD703X
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Feds Want to Lower Legal Driving Limit to thinking about One Drink
FIFY
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:41 am to ksayetiger
quote:no one drinks like this
Feds Want to Lower Legal Driving Limit to One Drink
One beer is around 0.02
After one hour your bac is back to zero
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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prohibitionists
particularly in towns like Monroe. No cabs, No Uber. It is basically impossibly to have drink outside of your home without having a DD.
This would just be a way to shut down bars and hurt restaurants.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 10:43 am
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:43 am to PearlJam
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There is absolutely no way you can know this. Especially if "drunk" is defined by approximately 2 drinks.
I was talking about seeing cars that are swerving and driving erratically that I pass by or pass me. Almost every time the driver has a phone in their hand and they're looking right at it instead of the road.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:46 am to Old Sarge
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30% is still a huge number, and I bet they fell between .08 and .15
if they'd publish the stats instead of masking it for fear effect, we may see some trends. Like a majority of the 30% of .08 to .15 are single car crashes, young guy goes speeding around a corner with liquid courage killing HIMSELF.
It's not the same as the BAC that causes a person to drift over into a head on collision killing OTHERs
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:47 am to Bama and Beer
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no one drinks like this
It is quite easy to go to a bar and have no more than one or two drinks and still have a good time. I do it all the time.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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this is not really a point if you've ever had alcohol, then at some point it was in your system and over time it metabolized out of your system. i guarantee you that you had no idea of its status as it metabolized and, more importantly, the exact point where you were OK to drive. the question isn't how much you've had to drink; the question is the time necessary to metabolize alcohol. that's a fluid scenario
If you plan to drink, have a designated driver. It's not really that hard to do. I don't care if I have one or five drinks, if I put any alcohol in my body I let my wife or someone who hasn't had any drinks drive me home. I don't understand why people want to put any level of alcohol in their system and get behind the wheel. I guess whenever it directly impacts you, only then you'll gain an understanding. (not specifically speaking about your SFP, just speaking in general terms)
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:50 am to Kujo
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if they'd publish the stats instead of masking it for fear effect, we may see some trends. Like a majority of the 30% of .08 to .15 are single car crashes, young guy goes speeding around a corner with liquid courage killing HIMSELF.
It's not the same as the BAC that causes a person to drift over into a head on collision killing OTHERs
If you're drunk enough to not be able to handle a curve in the road without killing yourself, you're drunk enough to drift over into a head on collision killing others.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:50 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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If you plan to drink, have a designated driver. It's not really that hard to do
no bar would exist then, everyone drinks in groups of 5?
at best, you are looking at an avg of 2 per vehicle, meaning 1/2 your customers...won't be?
stick it up your utopian arse
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:50 am to Darth_Vader
Yup, they use the texting and left lane laws solely for DWI stops. They don't pull people over for it if they aren't looking to question someone
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:51 am to Darth_Vader
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If you're drunk enough to not be able to handle a curve in the road without killing yourself, you're drunk enough to drift over into a head on collision killing othe
completely and totally incorrect
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:51 am to Old Sarge
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30% is still a huge number, and I bet they fell between .08 and .15
How many of those accidents are actually caused by said alcohol though? If someone is .25, alcohol was obviously the largest contributing factor. .08 it starts to get murky.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:51 am to Darth_Vader
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have no more than one or two drinks
This is hard for me, but just a personal problem. Lol
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:51 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:My wife and I often go to dinner and each have a drink (sometimes two). Neither of us is impaired. Why shouldn't one of us drive home?
if I put any alcohol in my body I let my wife or someone who hasn't had any drinks drive me home
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