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re: Feds are prosecuting contractors who are hiring illegals

Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30984 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Because everything has become too expensive in the USA due to monetary policy. People blame companies, but your govt is the one setting the table.


Government and monetary policy has nothing to do with setting up employment entities to manage liability and taxes
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
7433 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:19 pm to
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But are you willing to pay $100,000 more for a new home because labor for framing and drywall now pays $25-$30 per hour instead of $18-$22? All I'm saying is that I don't want to hear you or anyone else bitching about prices going up and blaming it on "greedy business owners


This MIGHT happen short term but eventually people will stop buying new homes with these inflated prices. Contractors can then decide to either make less money or start paying employees per job rather than hourly.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5317 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:22 pm to
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The question is, what happens when we don't do anything to remedy the issues with welfare


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You're trying to interject some fantasy policy


So…you want to remedy welfare…. But when someone else brings it up is is a fantasy policy?

You are the only person in this world to be 100% right, 100% of the time.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283441 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:23 pm to
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Government and monetary policy has nothing to do with setting up employment entities to manage liability and taxes


It has everything to do with wanting lower than baseline labor costs.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Member since Feb 2024
452 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Easy solution to all this. Temporary work permits, do some minor vetting and let them work 6-9 months. Make them play taxes, but not part of the social security or other public programs. Other countries do it this way.


100%

Also, offshore companies are doing this.
Sodexo, Amarite catoring staff.
Dont know how they get away with it. But those companies both have board of directors and are huge.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30984 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Most "genius" CEOs that have successfully "slashed costs" in everything from chain stores to resort golf hotels to delivery services have used the shell company subcontractors playbook.


quote:

Because everything has become too expensive in the USA due to monetary policy. People blame companies, but your govt is the one setting the table.


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It has everything to do with wanting lower than baseline labor costs.


Putting employees in another entity and then subcontracting them out to your operating entity has exactly zero to do with monetary policy. It’s about 90% for liability and 10% to minimize taxes. If money were cheap, companies would still do the same exact thing, just like they’ve been doing for about 25 or 30 years
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43959 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:33 pm to
Liberals have been crying for this forever.

Now we get to sit back and watch them all suddenly oppose it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283441 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:34 pm to
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It’s about 90% for liability and 10% to minimize taxes.


So what youre saying is they are minimizing risk and shedding costs due to some amazing, unknown forces that are destroying barriers to entry.

You might be on to something, maybe one day you'll find this amazing unknown force.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30984 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:36 pm to
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So what youre saying is they are minimizing risk and shedding costs due to some amazing, unknown forces that are destroying barriers to entry.


Which has zero to do with monetary policy as you originally said
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
49067 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:41 pm to
Landlords around the country are going to be losing lots of tenents.

Posted by Beer did clam
BatonRouge where CATS are RATZ
Member since Oct 2009
1205 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:42 pm to
Simple solution:
Audit HR offices for I-9 forms.
Then take Out the trash
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
5565 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:44 pm to
I wonder how many taxpayer funded construction projects have had 100% illegal crews? Probably a pretty high number if I had to guess. Meanwhile, young blacks and whites have been priced out of the construction industry due to the low wages offered to the illegals.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283441 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Which has zero to do with monetary policy


Little metro-autist is a linear thinker.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30984 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:49 pm to
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Little metro-autist is a linear thinker.


Taxes are taxes and liability is liability whether money is cheap or expensive. You tried another feigned intellectual post and got caught. Now start the name calling, most of which is incredibly ironic considering you’re an alone alcoholic living in a one bedroom apartment on the outskirts of society.

Your same song and dance
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283441 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:50 pm to
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You tried another feigned intellectual post and got caught.


Its painfully obvious your linear mind is not capable of grasping the concepts.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30984 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Its painfully obvious your linear mind is not capable of grasping the concepts.


Explain it to me like I’m 5 Rog
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283441 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Only in America do we arrest people for working.


Yep. We blame the wrong people.

If your job can be done cheaper, thats the value of your job and you are overpaid.

We cant compete globally due to labor and regulatory costs, of course people will find reasonable solutions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452700 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:57 pm to
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So…you want to remedy welfare…. But when someone else brings it up is is a fantasy policy?


Yes. What actual policies have been proposed by actual politicians to fix it?

Until real reform materializes, it's a fantasy.
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1216 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:16 pm to
This is what I voted for.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5317 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Until real reform materializes, it's a fantasy.


Until the sun rises tomorrow, it is a fantasy.
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