- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: FedEx worker keeps his composure during a racist encounter in Douglasville, GA
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:42 am to hassan whiteside
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:42 am to hassan whiteside
Can’t believe people say the m word in 2023
0
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:43 am to hassan whiteside
There is IDGAF and then there is that guy on a whole other level. I am not supporting him, I think he was completely nuts, but damn.
I am sure he threw that ball for his dog and the Fedex dude was barreling down the road because he has too many deliveries to make because my wife buys too much shite off the internet.....but that response was absolutley insane. My white Fedex driver drives like a bat outta hell too.
I am sure he threw that ball for his dog and the Fedex dude was barreling down the road because he has too many deliveries to make because my wife buys too much shite off the internet.....but that response was absolutley insane. My white Fedex driver drives like a bat outta hell too.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:43 am to LNCHBOX
Often takes 3 or so edits before I'm satisfied w/a non game thread post.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 10:44 am
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:44 am to Pettifogger
quote:
I think a plenty would argue that "effing thug" when used toward a black guy is a modern slur.
It depends. If it's towards a black guy who was literally acting like a thug. It's not a slur. If it's just toward anyone for no reason other than just because they happen to be black? Absolutely a slur.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:44 am to Warfox
quote:I cant say I blame the driver for recording, that was bizarre.
Both sides of that video need Jesus.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:45 am to QJenk
(no message)
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 10:46 am
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:46 am to FightingTigers138
quote:
Sounds like the Fedex driver was speeding through the neighborhood and almost hit his dog.
He's stopped in front of the driveway. He went from 60 to 0 in five feet?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:48 am to Dawgfanman
quote:I cant say I know anyone that would act like that guy. Some use slurs, but they do it after looking all around.
You don’t know anyone who has used a slur of any kind in anger? That just doesn’t seem plausible. No distant relatives who have crazy beliefs? If you are Black, you are saying you don’t know any other black people who think crazy things and speak about them with relation to Jewish people?
I tell my kids that if you gotta look around to make sure no one hears you that shouldnt, maybe you ought not say it .
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:55 am to QJenk
quote:
It depends. If it's towards a black guy who was literally acting like a thug. It's not a slur. If it's just toward anyone for no reason other than just because they happen to be black? Absolutely a slur.
Well yeah, that's exactly what I said too.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:55 am to Pettifogger
quote:
I mean, maybe. I think a plenty would argue that "effing thug" when used toward a black guy is a modern slur. And to the extent it's used towards a black guy for being black, I would agree.
That is a good point, but it's also not hard to avoid saying that too. I don't have the inclination to essentialize in real life because there is no real reason to. I get nothing out of saying things in frustration.
quote:
Anyway, I doubt most people commenting in this thread are having intrusive racial thoughts in the way you are suspecting - unless your mind going to racially/sex/other characteristic-tinged stereotypes counts (and in that case I'm interested in hearing about it because I assume that's widespread but perhaps I'm just demented).
Well, the best explanation of the relationship between stereotypes and intrusive thoughts, or rather, causal racism operating at 'unconsciously' is from the book 'Are Racists Crazy?,' as even stating that the 'unconscious' is inclined to magnify culturally contingent differences between people is to say something much larger about the culture. There is a fondness to pathologize racism in the sciences, but I think that we should combat the notion at play here, which is the 'unconscious' racism of normal, everyday operations. It doesn't take much work to actually upend that, but I can't speak to the degree to which most people participate in the 'unconscious' othering. I am open to evidence that a majority of people participate it, but I think more often than not, there is an initial choice involved, and we should acknowledged that choice as what it is.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:04 am to crazy4lsu
quote:
which is the 'unconscious' racism of normal, everyday operations
I'm not really sure it makes sense to classify what we're talking about as racism at all, but if what we're dealing with is race-associated stereotypes born of lived experience, what is the benefit of "upending" those? Or would the point be that upending the reaction/intrusive thought is the idea, rather than breaking down the underlying stereotype itself?
I mean, if 10 years living in San Francisco has led you to conclude that Asian women drive recklessly, is there some healthy obligation to deny that experience-based stereotype entirely? I understand that one needs to recognize it for what it is - a stereotype - but we don't need to "upend" to the extent we're denying our own experience do we?
I know we're off path here but I think it's a relevant sidetrack particularly when it comes to policing/profiling.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:14 am to MyRockstarComplex
He had a dog out without a leash. They and USPS can actually internally flag that to where the customer stops getting deliveries and has to pick up their packages.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:15 am to tigerfoot
quote:
I cant say I know anyone that would act like that guy. Some use slurs, but they do it after looking all around.
I tell my kids that if you gotta look around to make sure no one hears you that shouldnt, maybe you ought not say it .
I think my reaction to someone speeding through my neighborhood and almost hit my dog would be more on the lines of slow the frick down you piece of shite. Dude never even mentions speed, just a small bit about almost hitting his dog and a lot of slurs. Dude is a not right in the head.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:17 am to stout
quote:Who says the guy is 'decent'? I don't know if you've noticed but there are a lot of assholes out there.
I think it would take a lot of provocation for most decent people to just start dropping the N-word especially while being filmed.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:18 am to crazy4lsu
quote:
but I think that we should combat the notion at play here, which is the 'unconscious' racism of normal, everyday operations. It doesn't take much work to actually upend that, but I can't speak to the degree to which most people participate in the 'unconscious' othering. I am open to evidence that a majority of people participate it, but I think more often than not, there is an initial choice involved, and we should acknowledged that choice as what it is.
Or, and this is a wild idea here, we could not attribute racism to every last thing.
ETA: This is not directed towards the guy this thread is about fyi
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 11:19 am
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:19 am to Pettifogger
quote:
but if what we're dealing with is race-associated stereotypes born of lived experience, what is the benefit of "upending" those?
Well, the argument in the book is that these are borne out of a desire to give structure to othering. The stereotype is culturally conditioned and is segmentally reinforced, not by lived experience, but first by the existence of the stereotype itself, and then the interaction. There are a larger number of interactions humans may have that aren't conditioned by the culture at large, and for which we don't feel reinforcement because of that lack of conditioning.
quote:
I mean, if 10 years living in San Francisco has led you to conclude that Asian women drive recklessly, is there some healthy obligation to deny that experience-based stereotype entirely?
Well, it is leading you to inductive arguments that are used ultimately as a heuristic which is thought-replacing. From my view, most people can't drive very well, so it isn't like singling out Asian females doesn't seem beneficial, and doesn't do anything for me in future scenarios.
quote:
I understand that one needs to recognize it for what it is - a stereotype - but we don't need to "upend" to the extent we're denying our own experience do we?
I think I address this earlier in this post, but I struggle to find any real benefit to using stereotypes. It certainly doesn't ease my mind if I'm involved in a near-miss or an accident with an Asian female that there exists a stereotype for that situation.
The question seems to be, on some level, how does this appeal to a stereotype help someone in a situation, other than as a post-hoc explanation for the behavior of someone else? That I fail to see. It feels as though I'm using inductive reasoning to reach a dispositive conclusion but with no real benefit at all.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:19 am to hassan whiteside
What a POS
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:23 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
Or, and this is a wild idea here, we could not attribute racism to every last thing.
But in this scenario, we are talking about a spectrum of things ranging from stereotypes of groups of people to the use of slurs. I don't think I'm attributing racism to every thing, but I am suggesting that if people are inclined to reach for some slur in a situation, I don't think there is evidence that 'everyone has racist thoughts.' That seems like a cop-out to avoid self-introspection.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:25 am to hassan whiteside
Question, who wears a vest with shorts?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:26 am to fr33manator
quote:Even if the driver almost hit his dog, he could’ve yelled at and insulted the driver in other ways that didn’t have to be racist. Could’ve told the guy he drives worse than a woman
Not defending the guy, but I don't think someone just goes off on that tirade out the blue because they hate black people. He said something about the guy almost hitting his dog.
Page 7 of 14
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News