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re: FDA approval for Pfizer vaccine expected to happen Monday per New York Times

Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4442 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:18 pm to
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Not sure which she took but I did some reading earlier when


Sorry, what I meant was the flu vaccine. The flu vaccine is believed to likely have been the cause of the Guillane-Barre’. She has not taken a COVID vaccine because of this.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61528 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:20 pm to
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A quick look at the FDA “food pyramid”

did you mean the USDA food pyramid?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:21 pm to
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I just saw where someone in SWLA was diagnosed with Guillain-Barré syndrome shortly after getting the COVID-19 vaccine.



sucks to be the 0.001% of the population gets GBS but almost all recover from entirely.

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After more than 13 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine doses administered, there have been around 161 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of August 11, 2021.
meaning the vaccine GBS rate is roughly .001%. Which is ironically the same exact historical rate you normally see for GBS. weird.

Id probably look into if they had any recent strep, EBV, GI type illnesses, which are actually known risk factors for triggering GBS since there is not enough data to establish COVID vaccines as risk factors.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30018 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:22 pm to
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But if it’s FDA approved and your employer mandates then they are liable as well correct?


Employer's liability will almost certainly be limited to Workers Comp at most and Comp will have subrogation rights to the VICP payout if any.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179246 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:23 pm to
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is that more or less than viruses?



IMO this is always a silly "gotcha" people make.

One can either take the risk they will never get Covid and thus never get side effects, or they can purposely inject themselves with the vaccine not knowing if it will cause side effects or not.

This person was healthy, not like the ones they call healthy that are over 100 pounds, but actually in great physical shape in their early 30's and now they are dealing with something that could have possibly been avoided.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129156 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:25 pm to
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Not really unless they rebut their negligence waiver


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Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38952 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:25 pm to
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IMO this is always a silly "gotcha" people make


it's silly to ignore background incidence rates
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129156 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:26 pm to
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meaning the vaccine GBS rate is roughly .001%. Which is ironically the same exact historical rate you normally see for GBS. weird.


Higher rates of GBS in flu vaxx than the covid vaxx
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:28 pm to
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I just saw where someone in SWLA was diagnosed with Guillain-Barré syndrome shortly after getting the COVID-19 vaccine.
I hope you don’t ever claim others are fear mongers
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49821 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:28 pm to
Time to get my first vaccination ever
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
115710 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:31 pm to
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You act like the FDA is some infallible institution.
Of course he does. He's a far-left psycho.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129156 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:32 pm to
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I just saw where someone in SWLA was diagnosed with Guillain-Barré syndrome shortly after getting the COVID-19 vaccine.


An 18 year old had mild myocarditis after covid

SHUT IT DOWN

See how this works?
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:32 pm to
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The 20 plus year of Flintstone vitamins have my back


Relying on something that isn’t FDA approved huh? Or don’t any of you realize vitamins and supplements don’t require any kind of approval?

If you said 20+ years of eating a healthy well balanced diet so as not to require vitamins you’d be making a better point.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5054 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:32 pm to
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Vaccine? No! My body, my choice!! (Said while holding aforementioned fried chicken and stick of butter)


I feel likes it's more of us in shape people who aren't at risk saying this.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49821 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:32 pm to
Think he was joking but who can be sure
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179246 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:33 pm to
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ignore background incidence rates


Crazy how you entirely missed the point with another failed gotcha attempt

Again, you can risk never getting Covid which means 0% chances of effects from it or the vaccine. On the flip side, you can purposely inject yourself with the vaccine and your risk of side effects increases no matter how small background incidence rates may be.

Even crazier if you consider the fact that you can still get Covid once vaccinated which means you can still deal with Covid side effects too.

How that is logical just doesn't click to me.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73056 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:35 pm to
cool. it should still be a person’s own decision if they get vaccinated or not.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179246 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:35 pm to
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I hope you don’t ever claim others are fear mongers



How am I fear-mongering sharing a fact?

Also, please read it again slowly and see where I did not say it was because of the vaccine as that part has not been confirmed.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129156 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:35 pm to
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Again, you can risk never getting Covid which means 0% chances of effects from it or the vaccine. On the flip side, you can purposely inject yourself with the vaccine and your risk of side effects increases no matter how small background incidence rates may be.


If the last year or so is any indication you have about a 20-30% chance of getting covid over next year

Pretty high odds
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179246 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:36 pm to
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See how this works?


Not really because you are using hyperbole as if you are proving anything.
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