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re: FBI officially Investigating California shooting as a act of terrorism

Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
16064 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:49 pm to
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Not according Fox and affiliates. The shooting was a single conference room with a Christmas party.


Christmas is a trigger word.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41681 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:50 pm to
Not to mention coordinated clothing change and car swap (if legit). Indications so far is that this was a well planned/organized attack.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96129 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:50 pm to
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I just heard something about a rifle... a .22

Must be a new version of the AK-47




Relax - New AKs can be chambered in 5.45 Soviet, which is a .22 caliber centerfire.

ARs are in 5.56mm which is a .22 centerfire caliber, as well.
Posted by homesicktiger
High altitude hell
Member since Oct 2004
1632 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:50 pm to
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I just heard something about a rifle... a .22


Sounded like there might have been a foot chase last night in the same area, when that rifle could have been ditched. Officer just asked for confirmation of that incident and location so he could just "pick up" that rifle.
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:50 pm to
well those can look mean too!
Posted by Prowler888
Raleigh, NC
Member since Jan 2006
153 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:50 pm to
A horrible coincidence or a clue to who did this. The band Eagles of Death Metal have a song called San Berdoo Sunburn with the lyrics "we're headed to San Bernardino".
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:51 pm to
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which is a .22 caliber centerfire.


They actually said ".22 long rifle"

That's rimfire
Posted by tap011
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
826 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:51 pm to
That's creepy
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:51 pm to
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3 guys (if that holds) - and quick escape. That's tactical/criminal/terrorist, not crazy.




Criminals don't shoot up people for shits and giggles. If it's really 3 guys, then it's Muslim terrorists. If it turns out to be a single shooter, it's a crazy white guy.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86134 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:51 pm to
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That is a good question. You know there are cameras all over the building that the shooting took place in as well as all over the roadways in California.

In SoCal, it seems like there is a camera on every pole you pass by on any major thoroughfare.

It is hard to imagine that more information is not available.

I remember the documentary they did on the Boston Bombing, and interviewed the guy that was in charge of the whole operation. All departments reported to him. I seem to remember him explaining how it's not as easy as you think. He had to be very, very sure of releasing suspect descriptions before doing so, as he didn't want to make a mistake, and it can sometimes screw up the investigation.

I think I remember him saying they all debated pros and cons for some time before he decided to release it.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:51 pm to
They specifically said .22 long rifle on the scanner.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87684 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:51 pm to
Earlier they seemed to indicate that the Christmas party yesterday was for the center.

Could there have been another today for whatever entity was using the conference room space?
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86134 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:52 pm to
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Other than the conservative paranoia, what makes this shooting different from most other nut job shootings?

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41681 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:52 pm to
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A horrible coincidence or a clue to who did this. The band Eagles of Death Metal have a song called San Berdoo Sunburn with the lyrics "we're headed to San Bernardino".


So, what did the EODM do to trigger all this?



seriously though, that's legit creepy
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96129 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

They actually said ".22 long rifle"

That's rimfire



True and fair enough.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:53 pm to
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 outside of literal war zones he's right


Yeah I'm not sure what people are trying to prove when they don't at least acknowledge that mass shootings are a bigger problem in the United States than they are anywhere else in the world. I'm pro gun rights, but you're being disingenuous if you can't at least admit the facts.

You can admit mass shootings are a problem without having your NRA card revoked.
Posted by scubafeet
baton rouge, la
Member since Feb 2004
14285 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:53 pm to
Got some action going on!! 2 at gun point
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
21556 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:53 pm to
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They specifically said .22 long rifle on the scanner.


It's California, that could easily mean "rifle that is 22 inches long".....
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41681 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:53 pm to
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Could there have been another today for whatever entity was using the conference room space?


Very easily could have. Have no idea if they did, but if it is a conference center, I would assume they are pretty booked with these type of events this month.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86134 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:55 pm to
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Got some action going on!! 2 at gun point



I'm still at work so can't get onto scanners. Keep us posted.
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