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re: FBI officially Investigating California shooting as a act of terrorism
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:39 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:39 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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As far as the iphone goes, idk. Maybe it was missed? Maybe it was one of the officers and he accidentally left it behind?
Wouldn't this be exactly why you don't release a crime scene like this within 48 hours?
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:39 pm to terd ferguson
I read the landlord pried the door open and let them in.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:40 pm to terd ferguson
If there's an Obama conspiracy involved here, to what end? It seems like all the most damning evidence (guns, ammo, bombs, ISIS connections,etc.) has been made public already.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:40 pm to NYNolaguy1
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but they weren't the ones who left a crime scene full of evidence to be contaminated.
The door was blocked with plywood. Should have been guarded......but it's not like they just walked in there.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:40 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Never served as law enforcement, but did have several buddies move over to the FBI after the military. I can tell you they're not CSI. Most don't want to work the grave yard shift and as soon as they can pass the buck to someone else they will. This looks like they were told that the crime scene would be secured by local LEO, and local LEO never got word. Somehow all of the media found out and showed up. Now it's too late and the FBI is trying to save face.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:40 pm to igoringa
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Would that leave fingerprint dust residue? Is that the mess
Yes it is. That is why I said they likely swabbed for DNA and did not dust for prints.
Many things can be dusted for prints but if it doesn't have the right surface it would need to be collected and possible analyzed in a lab ( glue chamber or spayed with ninhydrin.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:42 pm to Rhino5
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Most don't want to work the grave yard shift and as soon as they can pass the buck to someone else they will. This looks like they were told that the crime scene would be secured by local LEO, and local LEO never got word.
This makes sense as well, and still points to the "We released the scene" thing as a bullshite CYA move.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:42 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
How can the media be so incompetent?
MSNBC just showed the driver's license of Syed Farook's mother and her SS number in a live broadcast.
Except they didn't blur out the personal information...
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:43 pm to NYNolaguy1
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the wars of the crusades are now complete" British General Edmund Allenby, upon conquering Jerusalem, 11 December 1917
great quote. Oh, if he only knew..
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:43 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Yes it is. That is why I said they likely swabbed for DNA and did not dust for prints.
Many things can be dusted for prints but if it doesn't have the right surface it would need to be collected and possible analyzed in a lab ( glue chamber or spayed with ninhydrin.
Since obviously conspiracy would be a concern with this plot (the terrorist act, not todays action), would you not expect to see a shite load of fingerprint residue in that 'cleared' scene?
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:45 pm to igoringa
I mean you can't have a trial with all dead suspects, so I guess there isn't a whole lot of sense to looking at evidence that would be relevant to a criminal prosecution but not to national security.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:45 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:45 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:46 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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with all dead suspects
wow.
they're ALL dead huh?
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:47 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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great quote. Oh, if he only knew..
He was right in a sense, the Ottomans stole Jerusalem from the crusaders in the 12th century, only to hand it back over in the 20th to the British.
On another note, Heres a slideshow of some items that were left from a "cleared" terrorist house.
Notice the bed, and the kitchen.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:47 pm to CAD703X
I mean seriously is there going to be a criminal prosecution? Against who? I haven't been following it as closely as you guys.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:47 pm to BeYou
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MSNBC just showed the driver's license of Syed Farook's mother and her SS number in a live broadcast.
They are trespassing at best, obstructing an investigation at worse. They should never have been in that apartment...which was blocked off BTW. Some media vultures found the landlord (who is clearly not all there) and had him pry the door open.
The doors and windows were all blocked off with plywood.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:48 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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to what end?
It puts a bow on the two killers and their involvement with an end to the investigation, and changes the conversation and focus of the media attention.
Not advocating this, just thinking out loud.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:48 pm to BeYou
This would be comical if it wasn't so damn disgusting, incompetent, and honestly scary.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:48 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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I mean you can't have a trial with all dead suspects, so I guess there isn't a whole lot of sense to looking at evidence that would be relevant to a criminal prosecution but not to national security.
You don't think shredded documents, photos, and the like could be used to see if this goes deeper than just 2 dead people? Are there other names in some of those documents that were just left sitting around... who are the people in the photos? Any of that information could have possible been useful to national security had it led to other individuals involved in this terror plot.
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