re: Fauci says vaccine won’t stop transmission

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If 100% of the population gets vaccinated against covid


I'll be surprised if they get to 50%

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In which case the the Ro for the original strain of covid would be ~0.4 which is still below the threshold needed for the original strain of covid to burn itself out. The problem we are now seeing is that Ro for the new strains is greater than the original covid strain's Ro of 2 - 3, and the vaccines in their current form (not booster even though both are capable of adding a booster) is less than 93% and 95% effectiveness. Which means more people have to get vaccinated to get the Ro < 1 for all of the strains of covid. Given the number of people choosing to not take the vaccine and the way some states have f**ked up vaccine administration; I would be surprised if we reach 25% of the population being vaccinated by the 4th of July.

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I didn't say it showed up due to the vaccine. I'm just telling what is going on in our facility.

But after MONTHS, I mean 6 months of NO cases, it is just "weird" or "odd" ...

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You are clearly implying it, It is ironic more than it is weird or odd.

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And yes, these 2 residents who tested positive are in their 80s and one has really no conditions (weird, I know) and the other certainly did.

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I know of several residents that were parents or grandparents of friends of mine that have passed away in nursing homes this past year, many had COVID some didnt but some of them arent really blaming it on COVID, even though they had it...they were just old and died with COVID


I also have a good friend of mine that lost her battle to cancer in early March...right before the shut down.

She was actually in the hospital during Mardi Gras with pneumonia...we were all worried she wasnt going to make it..but like I said she had cancer and it had totally destroyed her....but she was doing so well then BAM she got really really sick all of a sudden....this was before a few weeks before the shutdown on March 13th....we buried her the week before.

She was 50 years old....looking back we know the cancer killed her....but we wonder if she had contracted COVID in the end, caught pneumonia and that's was the last nail in the coffin

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old enough to have received the Polio vaccine.

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Thats not very old

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I don't know if Fauci said this or not, but the Moderna CEO said the same thing this AM in an interview on CNBC. He was asked about social distancing and masks going forward. He stated it hadn't been disproven that vaccinated people aren't still capable of transmitting the virus to non-vaccinated people. So basically, everyone has to get vaccinated........

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The point of the vaccine was never to stop transmission, it was to stop people from getting very sick and clogging up the hospitals. And to stop older folks from dying.

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Are you taking natural immunity into account in this equation?

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Yes I am taking into account the individuals that had covid (confirmed by tests) and recovered from it. I did not mention them because it is easier to type 100% vaccinated than to type 100% vaccinated and/or recovered from lab confirmed covid. However, I am not including those that say they had it and recovered but did not get tested because there is no way to know if they actually had covid and not one of the many other viruses that can cause respiratory illness.

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Within 10 days, 2 of the residents who took the vaccine have tested positive and are symptomatic and 1 is in the hospital, NOT doing well at all. They had NEVER tested positive before.

Of the 12 employees who took it, 3 were nurses who ended up super sick -- one within 3 days and the other 2 wihtin a week ... one of these is an RN who worked two separate covid units for roughly 6 months and NEVER tested positive despite the exposure.

Also, the nurses of course wear masks in the facility BUT 2 for 100% positive are STRICT mask wearers due to their situation as caregivers for family members. Like Nazi Strict. They still got the virus.

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That is simple to explain. The nurses and/or other staff got exposed to covid outside the LTC facility. They became infected, tested positive, and some eventually symptomatic. Their viral load was sufficient enough to transmit the virus for approximately 48 hours before becoming symptomatic or for the tests to detect the presence of the virus. That means they had exposure to the residents while they were contagious but before they knew it. Even though they were nazi's with their PPE they still spread it to the residents because PPE is not perfect. Also I would be willing to bet that both the staff members and the residents were not as strict with PPE protocols because they had a false sense of security after receiving the first dose of the vaccine. That happened at two of the LTC facilities that I moonlight at. Several of the CNAs went to parties on NYE and did not wear mask or social distance because they thought they were immune from the virus since they received the first dose of the vaccine the day before.

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That hasnt happened and it has nothing to do with the vaccine.

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What hasn't happened?

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Because I work in healthcare on the operations side for a consulting firm that has very large clients and I know the ICU census in a lot of major cities.

There have been some serious clogs around the country coming in waves throughout this thing. There are currently quite a few. Just because it doesn't happen everywhere at the same time doesn't mean it isn't happening.

And furthermore, I stated 2 points to the vaccine and the latter is certainly more critical. If we just vaccinate everyone over 65 the death rate (and hospitalization rate) would plummet.

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those that say they had it and recovered but did not get tested because there is no way to know if they actually had covid and not one of the many other viruses that can cause respiratory illness.

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Thats me and about a couple other dozen people I know

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Where did you go to med school? You seem to know it all.

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You dont have to go to med school to have an opinion you fricking retard