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re: Fauci: Drug discovered (Remdesivir), tested at UAB, coronavirus patients relief
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:58 pm to QJenk
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:58 pm to QJenk
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At the same time, Fauci was the main one telling people Hydrochloroquine was completely unproven abd doesnt need to be widely used as a treatment. Yet here he is pimping this thing as being legit.
Remdesivir just finished a large scale, double blind, random, placebo controlled study. Has Hydroxychloroquine done that yet?
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:59 pm to Redbone
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You didn't provide links so frick you.
YOU aren't worth my time.
uh, have you checked the OP?
You are the one making a claim that is counter to what's in the public space, so asking for proof of said claim is not unheard of. If you can't provide it you're basically proving my point.
But just for fun....this might help you understand a bit.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:00 pm to heatom2
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Remdesivir just finished a large scale, double blind, random, placebo controlled study. Has Hydroxychloroquine done that yet?
Where is the data for us to review? Also, no one will fund the hcq study because there is no money to be made.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:01 pm to Tiguar
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Tiguar
Baw I'm not really making an argument here, I was actually asking.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:01 pm to terriblegreen
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You mock, but you offer no rebuttal. Gilead is in fact losing the patent on their HIV drug. Now Fauci is pushing remedisvir. Coincidence???
No, not a coincidence actually. This may surprise you, but lots of pharma companies lose their patent protection on lots of their drugs. It happens all the time, which is why they have a pipeline of other products in development.
For coronavirus, many companies and many compounds were being evaluated...you're hearing the most about the Gilead one because it's shown the most promise. It's not a hard concept to grasp, you just don't like the facts for some reason.
Gilead also has 24 marketed products, not one
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:02 pm to heatom2
There is no large-scale published double-blinded prospective trial. There was a pre-print from Brazil that showed promising data when started early.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:03 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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you're hearing the most about the Gilead one because it's shown the most promise.
It may have shown the most promise, but that is not the reason why you have heard so much about it.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:04 pm to heatom2
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Remdesivir just finished a large scale, double blind, random, placebo controlled study. Has Hydroxychloroquine done that yet?
So much for those unethical placebo studies during a pandemic.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:05 pm to Tiguar
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It may have shown the most promise, but that is not the reason why you have heard so much about it.
Pray tell, why have I heard so much about it then?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:06 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Because Fauci is lead of the NIH and this study is being funded by the NIH. Gilead also has marketing and influencing teams. There is no "hydroxychloroquine" marketing team.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:07 pm to Tiguar
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There is no "hydroxychloroquine" marketing team.
They certainly dont need one when all Trump has to do is mention it in a tweet and then there is wall to wall coverage for a week.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:07 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Gilead also has 24 marketed products, not one
You're changing my argument to fit your narrative. Never did I say they only had one product.
Remdesivir is being pushed... whether you like it or not. You clearly hate Trump and that's defining your argument. Pretty sad.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:08 pm to Adam Banks
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They certainly dont need one
There is no "they" with hydroxychloroquine
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:10 pm to BaddestAndvari
So called experts at CDC have known since 2005 that chloroquine is a potent inhibitor in SARS Coronavirus infection. In Jan 2020 Doctors said hydroxychloroquine and remdesivir both work well against covid if given early enough. You think Fauci doesn’t know about these reports? Why is Fauci pimping one drug and not the other? If they both help WHY the frick would he only pimp one drug? Maybe because Hydroxychloroquine is cheap as frick and remdesivir is expensive as frick. Get your head out of your arse. Follow the money. I can’t believe you would be this naive but hey common sense isn’t so common anymore is it?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:11 pm to Tiguar
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There is no "they" with hydroxychloroquine
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Shares of Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. gained 13% in premarket trading on Friday following a Thursday night announcement that the drugmaker will donate more than 6 million doses of hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets in the U.S. this month. Chloroquine, a longtime malaria drug that is sometimes used as a treatment for rheumatoid arthritis, is being floated as a potential treatment for people sickened by the novel coronavirus by the Trump administration. Teva said in a news release that the drug, which has not received Food and Drug Administration approval as a treatment for COVID-19, has been requested by government officials in efforts to treat the disease.
Someone always profits. Not that I care, profit makes the world go round. Its why we went from no tests to 30 minute tests (abbott). Just saying someone will profit.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:12 pm to Tiguar
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There is no "hydroxychloroquine" marketing team.
Let’s be fair here. It got a ton of free marketing once Elon Musk and Trump started talking about it.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:12 pm to Bandit30
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Maybe because Hydroxychloroquine is cheap as frick and remdesivir is expensive as frick.
Gilead going to donate the first 1.5 million doses. How many severe patients are there in the United States to treat?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:13 pm to Adam Banks
And Novartis, and Mylan, and Teva, and literally every other manufacturer who makes generic drugs. There is no central profiting group outside the collective.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:15 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Hydroxychloroquine doesn't work, which was proven in multiple studies.
Link to studies?
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:16 pm to Tiguar
Why were studies dosing people with 1200mg of HCQ per day for 10 days and 600mg per day for 5 days when those doses were not needed for success? 200-400mg per day along with Azithromycin proved effective.
You know what will sink a study? Over-dosing your patients.
You know what will sink a study? Over-dosing your patients.
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