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re: Fathers that always look at the negatives; never give praise

Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:51 am to
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:51 am to
my kids know that participation trophies are thrown away.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99771 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:56 am to
the old man was covered with tattoos and scars
He got some in prison and others in bars
The rest he got workin' on old junk cars in the daytime
Now they looked like tombstones in our yard
And I never seen him when he wasn't tired and mean
Well he sold used parts to make ends meet
Covered with grease from his head to his feet
Cussin' the sweat and the Texas heat and mosquiters
And the neighbors said we lived like hicks
But they brung their cars for my pa to fix anyhow
Well he was veteran-proud tried and true
He'd fought 'til his heart was black and blue
And I don't know how he'd made it through the hard times
Posted by PensaTigers
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2018
3145 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:05 pm to
Just gonna reply straight on this. My dad was hard but he also got very excited at my achievements. I was his only kid. He never missed a football game. Even in JV, he was the only one watching practice. He actively looked for things to be proud of even though I was an adhd kid addicted to video games. I was still an all state lineman and did well in school besides skipping homework. He had a good balance, and he def had his bad times on the negativity. I dont blame him at all, he was right.

That said, I'm an emotional guy, I love and get angry pretty hard. My job is to set an example and I've got 5 kids. Twins are a year old. I do know how much more effective positive reinforcement is than negative. Studies prove it. What I think is more important is having the two work together. Strong negative responses with strong positive responses. Letting the child choose their actions based on what parental outcome they want, and by making the two options so very different, it strongly encourages then to do right. Ive seen it make big changes in a child's behavior in a short time. They're all at the top of their game though and very mature for their age. I'm proud of them, and they know that, and thats still with me being pretty rough on them like my dad did w me. I think the difference is that I have real talk with them, and have conversations with them as if they were an adult on reflecting on themselves. Most importantly of all, I know they're proud of themselves.

I miss my old man, died at 48 from a heart attack. Never got to hold his grandchildren and it breaks my heart. He was rough around the edges but I appreciate it in my older age. Just make take on fatherhood.
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
2826 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:11 pm to
Always praise your kids and show them love , never criticize and chances are they will grow up to be very confident in themselves .
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
8007 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:13 pm to
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As a child, how many of your fathers never encouraged or complimented your achievements or always sought out the negative instead of positive?

For example making a 90 on a test and him asking where the other 10 points were.

Or getting excited for the upcoming summer break and having him tell you all the work you were going to need to do during it.


My mother was this way.

My father was ok. He wound up leaving us when I was 14 just because of how toxic my mother was.
Posted by Cregg
Orange Beach
Member since Jul 2017
2374 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:38 pm to
My dad was a mean and selfish person. He only cared for booze drugs and strip clubs. He had an awful temper and a terrible frickin attitude. My grandfather is the best man I know. I often wonder how such a good man could have raised such a POS son.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10052 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:03 pm to
Are we related? Exactly my dad. Still to this day. In order to protect myself from that and my idiotic brothers, I've had to back away.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10052 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:05 pm to
Then stop. It gets really old.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5550 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:06 pm to
It's a fine line and each kid responds different.. Can't keep giving out awards just for showing up.. But can't put down for not showing up..
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11240 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:08 pm to
Pretty much... my dad passed in 2022. I made peace with this a very long time ago. I am a better man because of it and inspite of it.

We all need to grow up and beyond this stuff.
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
6758 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:18 pm to
My Father was great, hope I have been some where near as good with my own son
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3659 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:37 pm to
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My father drank. He womanized. Made outrageous claims that he invented the question mark. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap sack and beaten with reeds. Standard really.


Posted by Bistineaubengal
Member since Aug 2008
838 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

, I've had to back away.


As I got older, I paid more attention to how my parents treated strangers and their friends. I now know their negative behavior could be turned on and off.

I quit seeking their love and approval a while back and I focus on my family.
Posted by BourbonDad
Somewhere on the vol surface
Member since Sep 2016
208 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:04 pm to
I never realized the power that had over me until I started a 12 step program and sobered up. Pains me to think how I used to be like that when my kids were little.

Now I try to tell my kids daily that “I love you for exactly who you are today and whoever you’ll be in the future.” It’s a no strings attached message for that exact reason.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13953 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:58 pm to
I only knew one grandmother, Mom;s Mom, and one grand father, Dad's Dad. I never heard a kind word from either.
In those days, I'm 82, praising children was considered "spoiling" them.
I have four Grandchildren. Two boys and two girls. All four are awesome and I tell them every time I see them.
They aren't spoiled, just special.

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15519 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap sack and beaten with reeds.

When I was kid, dad molested both of my brothers.

Guess I wasn’t good enough.

Count your blessings.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61325 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 3:17 pm to
You know, it’s been said, and I wholeheartedly agree, that more often than not how your dad treated you is how you will see God’s relationship with you. If he was condemning, that is how you will see God. If he was someone you could always talk to, again, that’s how you will see God. If he was an inconsolable rule keeping tyrant, or if he was full of love and pride for you, then that’s how you will see God.

Now God is obviously not like man and none of those tyrannical condemning or unloving ciharacterteristics apply to Him, but in how we see God often times, our relationships with our fathers do play a part in our approachability to God. It’s built on lies of who God is, but it’s bad wiring in our heads.


If you have never watched “Show Me The Father” then I’d highly recommend it for everyone really, those who had fathers, are going to be fathers, or need a father in their life.

I’d also like to suggest a book I just had suggested to me, in dealing with these struggles, and you never really do out grow these issues if you don’t understand them first.


Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9546 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 3:18 pm to
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Sounds like a good father to me by demanding excellence and teaching kids that life isn’t all fun and games you have to work for a living


Sounds like a well meaning dad who will drive his kids away from him.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

the old man was covered with tattoos and scars
He got some in prison and others in bars
The rest he got workin' on old junk cars in the daytime
Now they looked like tombstones in our yard
And I never seen him when he wasn't tired and mean
Well he sold used parts to make ends meet
Covered with grease from his head to his feet
Cussin' the sweat and the Texas heat and mosquiters
And the neighbors said we lived like hicks
But they brung their cars for my pa to fix anyhow
Well he was veteran-proud tried and true
He'd fought 'til his heart was black and blue
And I don't know how he'd made it through the hard times


quote:

deltaland

Montgomery-Gentry.
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