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re: Father and son arrested/charged for murder of Arbery in Brunswick, GA

Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:57 pm to
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feds have absolutely no jurisdiction over homicides


Not so fast, Justice Holmes.
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Member since Oct 2018
10841 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:57 pm to
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Some people did some bad shite and they’re gonna get in trouble for it. Don’t really see what all the fuss is about.


I think you do....cmon man.

GBI doesnt step in, those good ol boys walk.

Right is right regardless. Theyll have their day in court.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84612 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:58 pm to
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It certainly is on the surface but you wanna get all the facts and physical evidence in place to make sure you get a conviction.

Look what the dumbass DA did in the Ray Lewis murder trial in Atlanta.

He arrested Lewis way too quickly and before sufficient evidence was gathered and witnesses could cooberate.
In other words he caved into the mob



The GBI made the arrest within 3 days of taking over the case, FWIW. I get what you're saying, but this was absurd.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:58 pm to
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The fact that they were arrested on 5/7 for a murder that occurred on 2/23 is, umm, fuss worthy. The video has been in possession of the authorities for most of that time.



If there weren't a recording these guys wouldn't be getting arrested at all.
Posted by treyk89
Member since Oct 2003
2264 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:59 pm to
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The feds have absolutely no jurisdiction over homicides that don't cross state lines, don't involve law enforcement (42 USC 1983) or that don't involve organized crimes /gangs.


If it’s considered a hate crime I believe the could
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84612 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:59 pm to
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If there weren't a recording these guys wouldn't be getting arrested at all.


Which is pretty incredible considering they video was taken by their friend presumably to exonerate them should something happen.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:59 pm to
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The fact that they were arrested on 5/7 for a murder that occurred on 2/23 is, umm, fuss worthy. The video has been in possession of the authorities for most of that time.



Ahhh so that’s what set this thing off. Was wondering why this was such a huge story.

The #BacktheBlue types won’t be having fun with this one.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Chris P Bacon
Member since Mar 2020
219 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:01 pm to
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The feds have absolutely no jurisdiction over homicides that don't cross state lines, don't involve law enforcement (42 USC 1983) or that don't involve organized crimes /gangs.


Looks like two people conspired to promulgate an act that could reasonably result in a loss of life.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48295 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:02 pm to
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The feds have absolutely no jurisdiction over homicides that don't cross state lines, don't involve law enforcement (42 USC 1983) or that don't involve organized crimes /gangs.


Except it appears that it may very well involve law enforcement in this case.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10841 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:02 pm to
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If there weren't a recording these guys wouldn't be getting arrested at all.


shite, they almost weren't getting arrested WITH a recording....the kids family lawyer released it out of frustration.
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4288 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:05 pm to
Why shouldn’t it be a story?? It wouldn’t be if the victim was white and everyone knows this reasoning. Don’t be obtuse for fricks sake.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124275 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:06 pm to
These two scumbags deserved to be arrested

But how come you never hear about the heinous crimes blacks commit on white people?

I remember that couple from Tennessee years ago. Basically a white couple were gang raped by a bunch of African Americans and then shot to death but I never heard about it on cnn or Fox. Just read about it on here
Posted by arkyhawk
SWMO
Member since Jan 2013
8116 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:06 pm to
Pretty incredible how much public outcry actually works. Over two months of them having this video and nothing. The public gets ahold of it and arrests are made within days.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11212 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:07 pm to
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or that don't involve organized crimes /gangs


This does though. Local pd.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98920 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:07 pm to
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The feds have absolutely no jurisdiction over homicides that don't cross state lines, don't involve law enforcement (42 USC 1983) or that don't involve organized crimes /gangs.


The Feds can absolutely be called in if they suspect the local police department is too corrupt to continue the investigation or is involved in a potential cover up. They did it here in Kentucky in Bardstown with the Crystal Rogers case after a Kentucky State Trooper was murdered around the same time.

ETA: The first two DAs even had to recuse themselves and the police department head is on leave due to a corruption case with their narcotics squad.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 8:08 pm
Posted by arkyhawk
SWMO
Member since Jan 2013
8116 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:08 pm to
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I remember that couple from Tennessee years ago. Basically a white couple were gang raped by a bunch of African Americans and then shot to death but I never heard about it on cnn or Fox. Just read about it on here



Were they arrested or allowed to walk the streets for 2 months because they had buddies in the PD?
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124275 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:09 pm to
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Pretty incredible how much public outcry actually works.


Yep. I wish people like Shaun king and Lebron james would be more outspoken on black people killing other black people.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:11 pm to
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It certainly is on the surface but you wanna get all the facts and physical evidence in place to make sure you get a conviction.



The first 2 DA's tried to say there was no case until they were called out on it lmao.

They weren't out gathering evidence and trying to build a case prior to the arrest.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:12 pm to
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The GBI made the arrest within 3 days of taking over the case, FWIW. I get what you're saying, but this was absurd.



There is something really weird about the whole thing. From the supposed break-ins that were never reported to police, to the fact the police had the video from the day of the incident but still lied to the mother about the circumstances of the victim's death, to the second DA not mentioning another video in his April 2nd internal memo, but then mentioning it to the NYT after his recusal, and then the fact that the property owner who claims Arbery came onto his property saying the footage only shows trespassing and no theft, it feels like a "locked-room mystery" or something.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 8:14 pm
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79115 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:13 pm to
100% cover-up
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