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re: Family suing Royal Caribbean in wake of toddler's death
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:18 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:18 pm to East Coast Band
And if he wasn't the granddad they'd be suing him, too.
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:19 pm to East Coast Band
Thank god for lawyers
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:21 pm to East Coast Band
suing someone else for their own negligence.. has become the american way.... 
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:22 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
"We want them to fix their cruise ships so that no other kids get hurt," Kim added.
So they're not suing for monetary damage? That's a nice gesture on their part.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:23 pm to choupiquesushi
I personally think they should relegate children to specific ships. Last time I cruised, we could never use the half the amenities because it was crowded with kids all day, every day. That said, I wouldn’t cruise with RC again.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:24 pm to idlewatcher
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What a strange story. If gramps is being charged with negligent homicide, how exactly can they sue RC when RC had nothing to do with the toddler's death?
Rule #1.
You can always sue no matter what. It does not matter what you sign or what you do before hand...you can always sue.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
On the lido deck and above, you'll usually have windows fore and aft but in the middle you'll have railings.
Sometimes you'll have open panes, but you almost always have some open air side decks on the upper decks. We usually get a balcony cabin and I've seen people sit on the railings. Crazy
Sometimes you'll have open panes, but you almost always have some open air side decks on the upper decks. We usually get a balcony cabin and I've seen people sit on the railings. Crazy
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:30 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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I just want to know if any of them jumped in after the baby?
There is no jumped in. The ship was docked, the child fell to the pierside.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:34 pm to East Coast Band
3,2,1
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:36 pm to East Coast Band
people suing other people over their own stupidity.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:36 pm to idlewatcher
There is a difference between Criminal and Civil Courts. The family is, and should be, suing RC in the Civil Courts where a preponderance of evidence is all they need to be awarded compensation. RC is grossly at fault here regardless who was holding the child. A 2 year old fell through an open window off their ship. This is not an example of a frivolous lawsuit. This is the courts about to put a punitive penalty on RC roughly around the price you'd put on a 2 year old child's life. That is justice served.
Or they'll settle...probably settle I'd guess.
Or they'll settle...probably settle I'd guess.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:46 pm to TheBorg
quote:How is it not frivilous? Someone picked the child up to access the opening. How is that RC fault? Are they to enclose the entire ship to ensure that does not happen?
There is a difference between Criminal and Civil Courts. The family is, and should be, suing RC in the Civil Courts where a preponderance of evidence is all they need to be awarded compensation. RC is grossly at fault here regardless who was holding the child. A 2 year old fell through an open window off their ship. This is not an example of a frivolous lawsuit. This is the courts about to put a punitive penalty on RC roughly around the price you'd put on a 2 year old child's life. That is justice served.
Or they'll settle...probably settle I'd guess.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:50 pm to East Coast Band
Heard Royal Caribbean has agreed to prohibit careless grandfathers from taking cruises with their granddaughters in an effort to settle the lawsuit.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:52 pm to RTRinTampa
If the grandfather gave two shits about the kid he should have jumped overboard as well and tried to save her...
ETA: never mind just saw it was docked... splat
ETA: never mind just saw it was docked... splat
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:54 pm to Napoleon
quote:
On the lido deck and above, you'll usually have windows fore and aft but in the middle you'll have railings.
Sometimes you'll have open panes
Right. No windows that open and close. Either fixed windows, or no windows at all.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:54 pm to NOBOTIGER
The ship was docked in PR. He dropped her on to the pier.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:56 pm to NOBOTIGER
quote:
never mind just saw it was docked
he still should have followed her down
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:59 pm to Displaced
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and the grandfather didn't notice there wasn't a pane of glass there.
1) IIRC - for eighteen seconds from lift to drop. Count slow, it is an eternity.
2) If I were RC, I'd start looking for the record of who was signing the tab for cold beers.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:00 pm to TheBorg
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RC is grossly at fault here regardless who was holding the child. A 2 year old fell through an open window off their ship. This is not an example of a frivolous lawsuit.
How are they "grossly at fault" here? A 2 year old didn't fall through a window, a 2 year old was dropped out of a window by her grandfather. It's a horrible tragedy, but I am extremely interested in the facts that show RC was "grossly at fault"
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