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re: Famed atheist and biologist calls the idea of more than two genders “utter nonsense”

Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63092 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:24 pm to
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If you cant see the difference between dehumanizing or even criminalizing expressions and thoughts you disagree with, with violating another person's bodily autonomy through violence, don't know what to tell you.


You are so confused about about anything I said that I don't even know where to begin.

Sex changes for 6 year olds is not an expression. The slow corruption of women's sports or the shared locker room phenomenon are not expressions.

I didn't even say I wanted to ban drag story hour. What exactly is challenging you right now?
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9046 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:27 pm to
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I didn't even say I wanted to ban drag story hour. What exactly is challenging you right now?



He's just attacking strawmen at this point because the emperor has no clothes.

I didn't say anything about banning drag queen story hour either, yet that didn't' stop him from accusing me of the same.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:27 pm to
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Nice try, "scientist." I didn't say you were. You want to change the paradigm and start doing something different that will - assumedly - offer more benefits for developing children. Do you understand how science works?





Once again, I am not the one attempting to change laws, create new restrictions on speech, and/or impose specific norms against something, you are.

I thought conservatives understood that restrictions on liberty and speech require a strong burden of proof, not the other way around?

...Of course we both know that rhetoric has always been bullshite, and stuff like this highlights it
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50352 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:28 pm to
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From my perspective, I'd be much more worried about a kid going on a church retreat or being an altar boy, but my guess is you wont be lined up to assault priests for proselytizing to kids will you? Even though church pedophilia and grooming is a far more pronounced and demonstrated problem in society.


Aaaaaanddd there it is. Complete with the nonsensical "you aren't against those pedos, are you?"

We get it. You morons are incapable of thought. Period.

As an atheist, I can say with absolute certainty I would prefer my kid going on a church retreat over drag queen story hour. Why? Because I know if something were to happen, myself, other parents, etc, would go after that person with everything they had. If the higher ups in the church chose to protect them, then that's on those monsters. Point being, I have yet to meet a single Christian that supports what those priests did. Every single one wants them punished. Unlike the left, who not only wants it to continue, but will cancel anyone who dares fight against it.

The level of depravity on the left is something to behold. Just vile, disgusting individuals.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260945 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:29 pm to
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am not the one attempting to change laws, create new restrictions on speech


Stop sexualizing children and you'll be left alone.


No one was at war with you shits until you turned the focus on children.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 1:31 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50352 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:33 pm to
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He's just attacking strawmen at this point because the emperor has no clothes.



Correct, but he will sit there and project unto you everything his group is doing. He is going to tell you that he and his ilk are the virtuous ones, while you are the nazi controlling people. Everyone with a brain knows this is as far from the truth as you can get, but this is what they are programmed to do.

There is no "middle ground" to be had with people like this.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9046 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:34 pm to
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I thought conservatives understood that restrictions on liberty and speech require a strong burden of proof, not the other way around?


You are so full of shite at this point that you are accusing me of things that I never said. I never said anything about banning drag queen story hour.

I'm asking you, the purported science-follower, to show us the science that drag queen story hour is a positive thing for childhood intellectual and literary development. Can you not provide that?

You're the one championing this programming; not me. So tell us why, preferably providing evidence that is in the childrens' best interests for their intellectual development.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:37 pm to
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I'm not the one claiming that men in dresses reading Clifford does harm to children and trying to ban it, you are.


If it hasn’t already happened, I give it three years before you’re arrested for some perverse sex crime.

No normal person is this passionate about having access to children.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12255 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:47 pm to
Your comments are always interesting to me.
Could you point out what it is in the above posts which causes you to conclude that the poster has an abnormal passion "about access to children"?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:55 pm to
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As an atheist, I can say with absolute certainty I would prefer my kid going on a church retreat over drag queen story hour. Why? Because I know if something were to happen, myself, other parents, etc, would go after that person with everything they had. If the higher ups in the church chose to protect them, then that's on those monsters. Point being, I have yet to meet a single Christian that supports what those priests did. Every single one wants them punished. Unlike the left, who not only wants it to continue, but will cancel anyone who dares fight against it.

The level of depravity on the left is something to behold. Just vile, disgusting individuals.


Sure thing pal



I'll give you three guesses what people in his church and vocal fellow members of the "Christian Faith" have said?

And just in the last month:




Now on the other hand there is not a single documented case of sexual assault being committed at a drag story hour, but conservatives have nothing but excuses for the church and pastors, and want to impose the full force of the state on the former.

If I heard half as much consternation about the crisis of Christian grooming and pedophilia, I wouldn't clearly think this is entirely about punishing social deviance you don't like.

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I have yet to meet a single Christian that supports what those priests did. Every single one wants them punished. Unlike the left, who not only wants it to continue, but will cancel anyone who dares fight against it.


Cool, though as the above shows, that's not always the case. But lets turn it around, the rampant abuse of children at the hand of the church should mean the church should be criminally banned from proselytizing or interacting with kids through church activities. Fair?

....Im guessing you wont be cool with that. And neither would I
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260945 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:02 pm to
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No normal person is this passionate about having access to children.
100% of the focus. No reasonable people get it. Adults supercharging childrens sexuality. It makes no fricking sense

Broncs reporting posts btw.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260945 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:03 pm to
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the rampant abuse of children at the hand of the church
. Imagine using this to justify child predators.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:05 pm to
His issue isn’t that people are against trannies. It’s that people want to prevent them from engaging in public displays of their sexual fantasies in front of children.

Read his posts. He’s telling you exactly who he is.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:06 pm to
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Broncs reporting posts btw.


Of course he is
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260945 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:11 pm to
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course he is
. He's such a little worm. Probably why he's after kids.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:13 pm to
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...There is no concerted effort that drove this...



Oh my sweet summer child
































The list goes on and on and on, but I'll wrap it up with a few quotes from a tenured California teacher running one of these predatory “Gay-Straight Alliance” groups for students.



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Because we are not official—we have no club rosters, we keep no records,” Buena Vista Middle School teacher and LGBTQ-club leader, Lori Caldeira, states on an audio clip sent to me by a conference attendee. “In fact, sometimes we don’t really want to keep records because if parents get upset that their kids are coming? We’re like, ‘Yeah, I don’t know. Maybe they came?”

The advice to those who run middle school LGBTQ clubs is: keep no records, so you can plead ignorance of the membership with the members’ parents



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I’m the teacher who runs our morning announcements,” Caldeira can be heard to volunteer. “That’s another type of strategy I can give you. I’m the one who controls the messaging.


and lastly

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If you want to bring a new world into existence, it seems—a good place to start is with other people’s kids.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260945 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:14 pm to
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Read his posts. He’s telling you exactly who he is.
. Yep. No mystery here
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:17 pm to
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His issue isn’t that people are against trannies.


Nah, the dehumanizing violent rhetoric that people like Roger espouse is in fact a big part of my issue.

As to is the push to use the arm of the state to criminalize wrong-think and first amendment expressions not based on any sort of evidence of harm, but because of "feelings" and wanting to impose their social norms on people by threat of criminal prosecution or violent reprisal.

See, I can point to activities in a very powerful organization like the church that habitually has members engage in grooming, pedophillia, sexual assault, and people that cover it up. I don't however run around saying all churches need to be closed, no more masses can be had, and children are outlawed from youth retreats or mass. Try and rile up a mob to intimidate anyone that goes to church and call all the attendants groomers.


That's your all's game.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260945 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:18 pm to
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Nah, the dehumanizing violent rhetoric that people like Roger espouse is in fact a big part of my issue.
. No one gives a frick as long as you leave kids Lone. You cannot leave them alone. It's your purpose.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260945 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:20 pm to
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The advice care about. to those who run middle school LGBTQ clubs is: keep no records, so you can plead ignorance of the membership with the members’ parents
. It's all they care about.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 2:21 pm
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