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re: FAA says SpaceX must implement 63 corrective actions before next Starship launch

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Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 2:40 am to
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Could be clickbait. No idea if these “63” are material or not.

I would bet that all of these were made in consultation with SpaceX engineers and many of them have already been addressed in the re-design and installation of stage zero.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39158 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 3:29 am to
Calm down, Francis. I can promise you that every single issue is something that SpaceX knows about and agrees with and is currently working on.

This is simply some bureaucrats wanting to show they “did something” in order to maintain their budgets.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2418 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 6:48 am to
I would assume SpaceX could spin out Starship into a separate company, and test that anywhere, and then sell/lease it to SpaceX when complete. That would bypass the FAA.

The problem with this is that the FAA doesn’t have jurisdiction over this. It’s a test vehicle-it’s not in commercial operation yet, which is the FAA’s remit. They haven’t weighed in on test vehicles in the past. It’s an overreach.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
4930 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 6:50 am to
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Does anyone else notice how things in our culture are getting strangely similar to "Atlas Shrugged"? Just wondering.


I notice this every day. It’s scary
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 8:45 am to
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The problem with this is that the FAA doesn’t have jurisdiction over this. It’s a test vehicle-it’s not in commercial operation yet, which is the FAA’s remit. They haven’t weighed in on test vehicles in the past. It’s an overreach.

This is all bile and mainly manure. Ask yourself how a vehicle moves to commercial operation if not for submitting detailed evidence as well as demonstrating safety to the FAA for certification.

Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 8:45 am to

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Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23043 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:05 am to
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Elon himself identified the need to fix those systems immediately after the launch. I doubt the FAA is asking SpaceX to do much (if anything) they aren’t already working on.


As the FAA is clueless about space flight, the only thing they will do is create delays while they approve the changes all the while some back-biting eco-nuts will try to create delays using the FAA bureaucracy.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23043 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:11 am to
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Almost as if the idiots in this thread thinks SpaceX generates money. Everything that company does is paid for by the tax payer.


SpaceX has saved us a lot of money on servicing the ISS and a host of government launch costs because they have developed and proven re-usable first stage rockets. The first stage is about 60% of the cost of a launch. It is a huge saving to have a reusable first stage.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:25 am to
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I can promise you that every single issue is something that SpaceX knows about and agrees with and is currently working on.

This is simply some bureaucrats wanting to show they “did something” in order to maintain their budgets.


I have no doubt that is true. However, having had more than a few experiences with building departments who do the same thing with power mixed with government sloth and delay, I don't see it as a positive development.

Then too it opens the door to political interference of the types we have seen way too much of.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6492 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:30 am to
Just dumb.
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 8:15 pm
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 10:52 am to
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SpaceX has saved us a lot of money on servicing the ISS and a host of government launch costs because they have developed and proven re-usable first stage rockets. The first stage is about 60% of the cost of a launch. It is a huge saving to have a reusable first stage.

I agree.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
62926 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 10:55 am to
Oh just another federal agency being weaponized against a political enemy.
Posted by Tiger971
Member since Dec 2019
303 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 11:08 am to
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FAA says SpaceX must implement 63 corrective actions


So not 33 or 66, exactly 63.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
20494 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 11:27 am to
The head of the FAA was formerly in the Obama administration & newly appointed by biden. If anyone seriously believes this is not 100% political they have cognitive issues worse than biden's.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2801 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 11:34 am to
As well as "A Brave New World," just with less Shakespeare.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45943 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 1:26 pm to
Elon pissed off the feds by picking a side in Russian war and payback
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2418 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 3:05 pm to
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This is all bile and mainly manure. Ask yourself how a vehicle moves to commercial operation if not for submitting detailed evidence as well as demonstrating safety to the FAA for certification.


Rockets have never been reviewed during the early testing phase by the FAA. They didn’t do this with the Falcon program. In addition, they have no experience whatsoever in this field.
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 3:06 pm
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3890 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 7:18 am to
According to a tweet by Elon, Space x has completed 57 of the corrective actions needed for the next Starship launch.

6 of the 63 corrective actions were for future launches.

They should be able to launch Starship again soon.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34705 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 7:54 am to
They also need to load up every Cyber truck into a car crusher.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:59 am to
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Elon pissed off the feds by picking a side in Russian war and payback


The Ukrainian side?
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