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re: F-150 "Reduced Engine Power" warning

Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53601 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:20 pm to
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i was just down the road from my house so I went slow


I wonder how many seized engines have been given to a mechanic with that line.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68245 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:26 pm to
I may be the next one
Posted by MajorMacD
Member since Apr 2017
146 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:34 pm to
I had a similar issue on a Land Rover LR4. Turned out it was a dirty throttle body. Easy fix.

While you're under the hood, clean your Mass Airflow Sensor, too.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:58 pm to
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Got this on the way home from the gym this morning. AC quit blowing cold air and the temp gauge maxed out. 2007 F-150, 5.4L V8. Stayed like this for about 5 minutes then everything went back to normal.

engine has been bucking in the 55-60mph range recently so i was planning on changing spark plugs this week, but is the above warning indicative of a larger problem?

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You probably have a misfire. DId the check engine light come on? The PCM is programmed to shut the a/c off and go into reduced power mode in the case of a misfire to allow you to get home without damaging the motor. You almost certainly have at least one ignition coil that has gone bad. Those motors are notorious for that. Coils are around $75 each you have one on each cylinder. If you're mechanically inclined at all you can replace them yourself, they aren't very hard to change, just the back ones are hard to reach.

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69572 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:00 pm to
Blown head gasket. You'll need a new engine.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:02 pm to
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yeah, gotta take off a lot of shite to actually get to them. my biggest fear would be breaking the plugs. former mechanic buddy is helping me out, shouldnt be too bad



LOL it's a tri valve? Those are a nightmare to change plugs on. There is a reason Ford gets $600 to do the job, plus $50 for each plug they break.

Seriously at 150K miles, the truck is overdue a tune up and you probably have a bad ignition coil. you may even have a plug that has blown out of its cylinder, those motors are bad about that, BUT usually you'll hear a knocking noise if that is the case, and no that isn't a major problem, but you will have to take it to a shop that has the tool required to repair it.

Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:13 pm to
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You probably have a misfire. DId the check engine light come on? The PCM is programmed to shut the a/c off and go into reduced power mode in the case of a misfire to allow you to get home without damaging the motor. You almost certainly have at least one ignition coil that has gone bad. Those motors are notorious for that. Coils are around $75 each you have one on each cylinder. If you're mechanically inclined at all you can replace them yourself, they aren't very hard to change, just the back ones are hard to reach.



Yep, my car had the exact same issue...coil pack went bad and caused misfires...it was like driving down an ungraded dirt road when it would happen. O2 sensor going bad can cause them to fail, just FYI. Might want to look into that too.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted by GeauxWrek
Somewhere b/w Houston and BR
Member since Sep 2010
5022 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:17 pm to
Stop being a poor and just buy a new king ranch
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15818 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:23 pm to
It's usually not the coil pack but the boot or spring inside the boot that causes the misfire. Cleaning the contact on the coil pack and replacing the boot and spring is less than $2 in parts. Shops/mechanics usually install a new coil pack that comes with a new boot and spring.

I have logged over 450,000 miles in my last 3 F150s and never had a coil pack fail. I do replace the boots and springs when I change the spark plugs.

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:27 pm to
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It's usually not the coil pack but the boot or spring inside the boot that causes the misfire. Cleaning the contact on the coil pack and replacing the boot and spring is less than $2 in parts. Shops/mechanics usually install a new coil pack that comes with a new boot and spring.

I have logged over 450,000 miles in my last 3 F150s and never had a coil pack fail. I do replace the boots and springs when I change the spark plugs.


Good point, THose tri valves are terrible about the boots shrinking up, then what actually happens is moisture gets into the cylinder and when the engine fires, the moisture creates a misfire condition.

You CAN just replace the boots, but usually it's just easier to replace the coil. One thing is for sure, ANY time you do a tune up on these engines, spend the extra $20 and replace the boots on each coil.



Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:33 pm to
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ford


Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:48 pm to
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Yep, my car had the exact same issue...coil pack went bad and caused misfires...it was like driving down an ungraded dirt road when it would happen. O2 sensor going bad can cause them to fail, just FYI. Might want to look into that too.


02 sensor can't cause an ignition coil failure bro.

Bad ignition coil can definitely cause a catalytic converter to clog up though, in fact a misfire is the only cause of a clogged converter.

But the 02 sensor has nothing to do with spark. Newer cars actually use an airflow meter as the front 02 sensors, which control the air flow and the fuel flow in each cylinder of the engine, but not spark. Completely different system. Of course a fuel problem can also cause a misfire, but that's not spark related.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68245 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:54 pm to
Thanks for all the advice. May just bring this mfr info the stealership and let them frick with it
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:55 pm to
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bad ignition coil can definitely cause a catalytic converter to clog up though, in fact a misfire is the only cause of a clogged converter.


My fault....that's what I meant, cat converter.

I know when mine fricked up, I tried just replacing the boot on the plugs and that didn't work...ended up having to replace a coil.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:12 pm to
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Thanks for all the advice. May just bring this mfr info the stealership and let them frick with it


Gotta find a reputable independent auto tech. This is almost without question a misfire. I know the a/c has thrown you off, but that is by design, not the result of a bigger problem.

And the 4.6/5.4 engines are notorious for bad ignition coils. It's just a matter of which one, or you could simply replace all 8, but that gets expensive. Any mechanic that has a quality commercial grade scanner can pinpoint which cylinder is misfired and get your problem sorted out.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 5:02 pm
Posted by Bigtime92
Solsbury Hill
Member since Jan 2017
3688 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:21 pm to
This could be caused by anything from sensors to low coolant level. Have you pulled any codes on it?
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:45 pm to
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You probably have a misfire. DId the check engine light come on? The PCM is programmed to shut the a/c off and go into reduced power mode in the case of a misfire to allow you to get home without damaging the motor. You almost certainly have at least one ignition coil that has gone bad. Those motors are notorious for that. Coils are around $75 each you have one on each cylinder. If you're mechanically inclined at all you can replace them yourself, they aren't very hard to change, just the back ones are hard to reach.


That won't explain the temp gauge. If it moved quickly up and quickly fell back to normal I would think about the temp sensor. That would explain a lot. CEL? I would have it scanned for codes and misfires. Would tell a lot.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:48 pm to
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F-150 "Reduced Engine Power" warning

Only one solution: more throttle, baw.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:49 pm to
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That won't explain the temp gauge. If it moved quickly up and quickly fell back to normal I would think about the temp sensor. That would explain a lot. CEL? I would have it scanned for codes and misfires. Would tell a lot.


Of course it needs to be diagnose, I'm just giving best guesses based on experience.

But yes, a misfire can explain the temp gauge fluctuating, at least until the PCM does as it's designed to do and shuts down the a/c and reduces power to prevent overheating.

I'm fairly confident that this is a bad ignition coil at worst, but at 150K the engine just needs a tune up anyway if it hasn't had one in its life.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6084 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 5:00 pm to
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former mechanic



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