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re: F-14 Tomcat Vs FA/18E/F Super Hornet
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:55 am to Drew Orleans
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:55 am to Drew Orleans
Drew...are you a Fury Girl, Horny Horse or Mr. Bones? Only eagle drivers or maintainers of TY tails would understand.
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:13 am to Corch Urban Myers
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I thought it to be entertaining
Check out some of Snodgrass' work with the 14. Truly amazing pilot that got the most out of the bird.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:39 am to yoga girl
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What is a plasma shield? ETA: From Googling it, looks kind of effective military wise but who knows what sketchy uses will be used.
In Starcraft it made your units a lot tougher because you had to wear down the shield first before they took damage.
In real life, I have no idea.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:41 am to Brick67
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Drew...are you a Fury Girl, Horny Horse or Mr. Bones? Only eagle drivers or maintainers of TY tails would understand.
Or Controllers
I don't have a coin for the 2nd Fighter Squadron, sadly...
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:46 am to ElwoodBlues
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Can't understand why the Navy couldn't upgrade the Tomcat. Thoughts from knowledgeable people?
In the initial moments of the war in Afghanistan, the Tomcat was brought back into service as it had a superior range over the F-18
My father helped design the F-14's weapon systems. I grew up going to the Grumman factory and watching the F14D being assembled. I love that aircraft
In a strictly missile environment I believe the Tomcat would beat the Hornet by the very fact it could fire a Phoenix missile at a target from 100 miles away.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:57 am to Tigeralum2008
The Tomcat was also equipped with a TV camera that could spot targets from 40 miles out. Thus giving an additional sensor without emitting anything.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:11 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:22 am to Corch Urban Myers
Cool video. The F-4 sure produce a lot of exhaust.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:25 am to ElwoodBlues
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The F-4 sure produce a lot of exhaust.
just trying to keep it fair
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:25 am to GeauxxxTigers23
"And you a-hole, you're lucky to be here!"
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:54 am to Tigeralum2008
The Phoenix was more of a HVAA killer. Not really reliable against fighter jet size threats (MiGs, Sus, etc). They were designed to take out bomber threats to their fleet or strategic bombing lanes inbound to a point of interest the fleet was designated to protect.
Plus, the F-14 wasn't a very good bomber. The Hornet/Super Hornet is much more versatile for the various missions of the Navy & Marines. Solid air-to-air capabilities and a pretty good air-to-ground support fighter. The F-14 had a massive radar cross section on it. Could see it coming from 100 miles out. Not really advantageous in a VFR fight against smaller, more maneuverable jets. The F/A-18 would easily defeat F-14 long range missile shots in an aware fight. Once inside 10 miles, the 18 would out-maneuver the 14.
All that said, the F-14 was sexy as Hell, though. Of course, the movie added to the lore.
Plus, the F-14 wasn't a very good bomber. The Hornet/Super Hornet is much more versatile for the various missions of the Navy & Marines. Solid air-to-air capabilities and a pretty good air-to-ground support fighter. The F-14 had a massive radar cross section on it. Could see it coming from 100 miles out. Not really advantageous in a VFR fight against smaller, more maneuverable jets. The F/A-18 would easily defeat F-14 long range missile shots in an aware fight. Once inside 10 miles, the 18 would out-maneuver the 14.
All that said, the F-14 was sexy as Hell, though.
Of course, the movie added to the lore.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:57 am to The Quiet One
For any nerds here interested you can download a game from the app store called air fighters that is pretty good. It is free and fun to play. You can buy air fighters pro which allows in flight refueling. I play this shite out of it.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:57 am to theantiquetiger
TOmcats were much more complex and expensive to fly and maintain for starters.
Tomcat was designed from the get go to be a long range interceptor more than a muti role strike fighter.
Tomcat was designed from the get go to be a long range interceptor more than a muti role strike fighter.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:58 am to The Quiet One
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F-14 Tomcat Vs FA/18E/F Super Hornet
The Phoenix was more of a HVAA killer. Not really reliable against fighter jet size threats (MiGs, Sus, etc). They were designed to take out bomber threats to their fleet or strategic bombing lanes inbound to a point of interest the fleet was designated to protect.
Plus, the F-14 wasn't a very good bomber. The Hornet/Super Hornet is much more versatile for the various missions of the Navy & Marines. Solid air-to-air capabilities and a pretty good air-to-ground support fighter. The F-14 had a massive radar cross section on it. Could see it coming from 100 miles out. Not really advantageous in a VFR fight against smaller, more maneuverable jets. The F/A-18 would easily defeat F-14 long range missile shots in an aware fight. Once inside 10 miles, the 18 would out-maneuver the 14
there you have it...
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:00 pm to Tigeralum2008
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In the initial moments of the war in Afghanistan, the Tomcat was brought back into service as it had a superior range over the F-18 "
Negative canyon...... several tomcat squadrons were still in the fleet as of the start of the war in afghanistan
speaking as someone who witnessed one of the few US Navy F-14 shoot downs.
In the initial moments of the war in Afghanistan, the Tomcat was brought back into service as it had a superior range over the F-18 "
Negative canyon...... several tomcat squadrons were still in the fleet as of the start of the war in afghanistan
speaking as someone who witnessed one of the few US Navy F-14 shoot downs.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:05 pm to choupiquesushi
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there you have it...
Not so fast. The Bombcat was a pretty good platform. Inside 10 miles? Those parameters aren't really measurable and it depends. The 14 may not be as quite as maneuverable as a legacy Hornet, but since the Super Hornets aren't as maneuverable as the legacy this really doesn't fly.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:09 pm to choupiquesushi
I love watching the Blue Angels fly the F-14s in formation. Saw them at an air show last year and ended up learning a ton about the F-14 as well as the history of the Blue Angels. My son now wants to fly that plane as a member of the Blue Angels. Dream big....amrite?!
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:12 pm to Dick Leverage
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I love watching the Blue Angels fly the F-14s in formation
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:13 pm to Dick Leverage
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Blue Angels fly the F-14s in formation. Saw them at an air show last year and ended up learning a ton about the F-14
hunh?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:14 pm to Dick Leverage
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I love watching the Blue Angels fly the F-14s in formation. Saw them at an air show last year and ended up learning a ton about the F-14 as well as the history of the Blue Angels. My son now wants to fly that plane as a member of the Blue Angels. Dream big....amrite?!
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Georgia Fan
I bet you're the kind that barks at people
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