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Eyesight - Looking at the Stars (in the night sky)

Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:55 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:55 pm
So, I just noticed, while looking at a constellation, possibly the little dipper, it was very bright when I wasn't looking directly at it. When I focused directly on it, it faded away and almost disappeared. I know I am losing my near-sight vision, like reading instructions to anything and holding them further. But my far-sightedness is great (I sound old as frick ) So why are stars disappearing?
Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:58 pm to
Sometimes I think that is caused from damage to your retina.

Do you see stars when you cough really hard while tired?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:58 pm to
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So why are stars disappearing?


A lot of them are projections. I don’t remember if the Little Dipper was on the last list I saw but I’ll check. That could explain your experience.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4109 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:58 pm to
Macular degeneration.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:59 pm to
Shut your eyes, count to thirty aND then reopen. Will help night vision.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38225 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:00 pm to
Aids.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:00 pm to
They fizz out baw
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:01 pm to
That is a normal phenomenon. Don't look directly at it.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Macular degeneration.
Probably more like the actual macula area which because it is a nerve connection contains no rods or cones to receive input, thus a blind spot. Just off center rear of each eye. So seeing out to one side causes one eye to be blind to the input cutting perception in half.
Posted by Ray Penpillage
Western Slope
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:06 pm to
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That is a normal phenomenon. Don't look directly at it.


This.

Looking directly at it focuses light not on rods and cones, which register incoming photons, but where the optic nerve joins the eyeball (no photon detectors there).

Something like that anyhow.
Posted by EA6B
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

So, I just noticed, while looking at a constellation, possibly the little dipper, it was very bright when I wasn't looking directly at it. When I focused directly on it, it faded away and almost disappeared. I know I am losing my near-sight vision, like reading instructions to anything and holding them further. But my far-sightedness is great (I sound old as frick ) So why are stars disappearing?


It is totally normal, our peripheral vision is much more sensitive at night because the rods that make up the periphery of the retina are 1000 times more sensitive to light than the cones clustered in the center, but rods only respond to black and white, so the effect is more noticeable at night.

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"In dim light, when it’s nighttime and dark, the cones are fairly useless. The rods are present at the extremes of the eye. That’s why we can better pick up objects by averting our glance rather than viewing the object directly. As a matter of fact, hunter safety courses and military trainers say not to look directly at an object at night if you want to see it. Peer or scan around the object you are trying to see so that the light falls on the rods"
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 9:12 pm
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3261 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

Probably more like the actual macula area which because it is a nerve connection contains no rods or cones to receive input, thus a blind spot. Just off center rear of each eye. So seeing out to one side causes one eye to be blind to the input cutting perception in half.


Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45420 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:08 pm to
Depending on the angle a stars light enters the atmosphere, you get distortion. During certain times of the year, certain stars are red because of this.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5963 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:10 pm to

I've always noticed this. The stars appear clearer as I focus slightly away.

Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27937 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:10 pm to
I cant even see stars anymore. When I look up I see just a black background with random fuzzy pinpointed white things moving around everywhere.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:11 pm to
A quick review on how the eye works. Light passes through the outer layer of the eye called the cornea, goes through a clear liquid solution termed the aqueous humor, then the pupil, or the black hole of the eye and then strikes the lens. The cornea and lens bend or refract light. The light passes through the eyeball filled with a liquid (vitreous humor) and then strikes the retina.

The image is formed on the retina in the back of the eye. The retina is like the film in a camera. This is where seeing takes place. There are two types of receptors that make up the retina: rods and cones. Cones are found near the center of the retina and detect color. An easy way to remember is to use the three Cs: center, cones, color.

The rods are found on the edges or periphery of the retina. Rods are 1,000 times more sensitive to light, but they do not respond to color. Rods are far more numerous. A typical set of eyes has six million cones and 120 million rods.

Most all of our vision makes use of the densely packed cones in that center part of the eye, called the fovea. That fovea gives us color and fine detail.

In dim light, when it’s nighttime and dark, the cones are fairly useless. The rods are present at the extremes of the eye. That’s why we can better pick up objects by averting our glance rather than viewing the object directly. As a matter of fact, hunter safety courses and military trainers say not to look directly at an object at night if you want to see it. Peer or scan around the object you are trying to see so that the light falls on the rods.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3661 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:11 pm to
Rods and Cones!!!

The center of your eye is better for vision with light present. At night, the outer portion of your eye takes over.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3261 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:11 pm to
Cones are more for fine vision and used in bright light. Your central vision (the macula) is nearly all cones. Rods are more active in dim light, rods are most concentrated at about 20deg from your central fixation
This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 9:15 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

In dim light, when it’s nighttime and dark, the cones are fairly useless. The rods are present at the extremes of the eye. That’s why we can better pick up objects by averting our glance rather than viewing the object directly. As a matter of fact, hunter safety courses and military trainers say not to look directly at an object at night if you want to see it. Peer or scan around the object you are trying to see so that the light falls on the rods.


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