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Explain this $600 tax thing to me like I am 12 please...

Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:05 pm
I bought a watch several years ago with income that I was taxed on. Then I paid sales tax at the time of the purchase.

Fast forward to now, I sell the watch online. I get paid through PayPal.

I just received notice that the money I am getting through PayPal is being reported as "income" because it exceeds $600.

I sold something that I was taxed on at time of purchase and now I am being taxed again when I sell it? How is that right?

I guess this is why they want to get rid of cash as well. I heard about the $600 thing but assumed it was for people running businesses online. Not for a simple buy / sell one time transaction.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:07 pm to
You have to prove it wasn't income... don't you love the IRS!
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:07 pm to
Joe Biden... clear enough?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:07 pm to
Shut up bigot and pay your fair share.
Posted by Bubb
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:08 pm to
Welcome to the Libertarian Party. Wait until you hear what happens when you die!
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:09 pm to
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Joe Biden... clear enough?

Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64048 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:12 pm to
You basically have to show what you originally paid and what you sold it for. If you made a profit, you owe the tax on that. At least that’s my understanding.
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3485 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:15 pm to
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“Will I have to pay taxes when sending and receiving money on PayPal - what exactly is changing? “

“Beginning January 1, 2023, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) implemented new reporting requirements for payments received for goods and services, which will lower the reporting threshold to $600 USD for the 2023 tax season, from 2022’s threshold of $20,000 USD and 200 transactions.”
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:16 pm to
You can thank Biden for that.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
11913 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:18 pm to
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I get paid through PayPal.


Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:22 pm to
Ukraine needs another $100BB. Obviously you must want Russia to win.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16309 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:26 pm to
Always do friends and family.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
3782 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:31 pm to
If you paid $600 you have $600 basis in the watch. If you sold for $600, you have a gain of zero. Nothing with the taxation changed, just the reporting threshold.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:35 pm to
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Always do friends and family.


I don’t think this is an option using ebay
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5175 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:37 pm to
Should have dismantled and sold each part for $599
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21893 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:46 pm to
It has to do with income tax, not retail sales tax

Paypal, Venmo, and similar services now report to the IRS when you receive payments of $600+ and send you a 1099.

When you file your taxes, you deduct the original cost basis of the item you sold. So in the end, if you sold the watch for equal or less than you originally paid for it, then it has no bearing on your taxes. But if you made a profit on the watch, the profit is now taxable income.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21893 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:50 pm to
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Always do friends and family.
Still going to get the 1099 for taxes if its over $600

Only difference with “friends and family” is that Paypal doesn’t charge a fee to the recipient. And there’s no Paypal protection for the sender if you get scammed or there’s a problem and the seller refuses to make it right.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6411 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:58 pm to
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I heard about the $600 thing but assumed it was for people running businesses online


People like you always assume the law is about someone else. You're the problem. It's always about anyone that has money and that means you, every moonlighting maid or baby sitter, they want your money, and more of it.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
3782 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:00 pm to
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the profit is now taxable income.


A hypothetical gain was always income subject to tax. In the past, PayPal wasn’t reporting your proceeds to the IRS, so obviously most people wouldn’t report that gain.

With audit risk effectively at zero, unless you have a ton of these reportable transactions, if you want to evade tax like everyone has in the past, you can still easily do it.
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