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Exhibit A as to why morale is so low among the junior ranks of the U.S. Navy...

Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:26 pm
Newly promoted senior leadership like this...

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Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:27 pm to
Now that's what I call esprit de corps!
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21305 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:29 pm to
I have some friends who are around my age who either enlisted or are officers and it blows my mind how often they're posting on social media in the middle of everything they're doing. I had no idea any of that stuff was allowed.

ETA: I’m reading Douglass Southall Freeman’s Biography on Lee right now. I’m at the part where he’s a plebe at Westpoint. They weren’t even allowed to have books. They could have one magazine or whatever the 1800s equivalent of that was and needed direct permission of the superintendent. Basically anything else of a personal nature was off limits or if it wasn’t it needed to be directly approved on a case by case basis. Even playing an instrument in private was limited to something like 2 hours a week.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38855 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:29 pm to
What..the...frick...
Posted by puse01
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:30 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 9:46 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19100 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:31 pm to
I think it’s the collapse of white culture. We’re permitting this to happen.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Newly promoted senior leadership like this...



my nephew flies P-3s and the punks are so bad about their cell phones that everyone has to turn it off and drop it in a box as they board the plane, same thing befpre going into sims too
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:33 pm to
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I think it’s the collapse of white culture. We’re permitting this to happen.



Those who do not participate have "opted out" because there isn't really any effective way to police behavior within accepted avenues. It really feels like we are going down to the tornado shelter until the storm passes.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:34 pm to
I always wondered what it was like being a Roman citizen at the end when things started to collapse in their society.

I don't really wonder anymore.

Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9564 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:35 pm to
I'm so glad I retired in December of 2015. I saw the writing on the wall then as a 1SG.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134843 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:35 pm to
The crazy part is that in 5 years we'll look at this as relatively conservative behavior.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:38 pm to
buy bitcoin and bullets
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:40 pm to
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buy bitcoin and bullets



In any SHTF scenario, I do not trust the capability of cryptos (though I do think they are the way of the future - IF we can maintain technological stability).

Better to have physical means of production than currency that might not be fungible.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123923 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:44 pm to
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Those who do not participate have "opted out" because there isn't really any effective way to police behavior within accepted avenues. It really feels like we are going down to the tornado shelter until the storm passes



It’a almost like the Amish had it juuuuuust about right.

What, they basically stopped progress in the 1880s?


What if we had a sect like that...except it’s the 1980s.

No social media, vehicles you can work on, they would just reject the shite that came after 89.

And also no pacifism.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134843 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:44 pm to
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In any SHTF scenario, I do not trust the capability of cryptos

In any SHTF scenario, I wouldn't trust the US Navy either. I can see sailors taking selfie videos and dancing while a ship is engulfed in flames
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19100 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:45 pm to
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because there isn't really any effective way to police behavior within accepted avenues


I believe that’s due to the moral and physical collapse of our ruling class, and the rise of the kleptocrats.

The Teddy Roosevelt’s and Andrew Jackson’s don’t go into politics anymore.

Instead, we get Clinton’s and Biden’s.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31676 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:47 pm to
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I think it’s the collapse of white culture


Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:51 pm to
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I believe that’s due to the moral and physical collapse of our ruling class, and the rise of the kleptocrats.



I suppose that's just an inevitability of any human institution. Nothing can exist in perpetuity, and everything must have a natural life cycle.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:51 pm to
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I always wondered what it was like being a Roman citizen at the end when things started to collapse in their society.


Rome began recruiting tough arse Germans and Illyrians into their military, and things went down hill after centuries. We are recruiting and promoting women and queers and things are going down hill in years and months.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:51 pm to
What the?
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 1:52 pm
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