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re: Exceptions to the mask "requirement" in Davidson County (Nashville)

Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:02 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94758 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:02 am to
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5-6 crunchy white people
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94758 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:03 am to
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You people who think your bravery in refusing to wear a mask is akin to a badge of honor are ridiculous.

Just put the damn thing on. Stop politicizing a fricking 10sq inch of fabric. Wear it where it's required and take it off when you get outside.

concern troll is concerned
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
806 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:04 am to
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HIPAA covers the disclosure of PHI.

...by a covered entity. Covered entities are health care providers and health care plans (insurance.)

People like to throw "HIPAA" around but its scope is actually quite limited and has nothing to do with disclosing your supposed medical condition precluding you from wearing a damn face covering. That is more in the realm of ADA than HIPAA.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94758 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:05 am to
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iAmBatman


the real batman wouldn't cuck out as easily as you

now run along and be a good little government-science sheep and put your mask on in your car.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:08 am to
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...by a covered entity. Covered entities are health care providers and health care plans (insurance.)


And business associates, which covers anything and anyone who has your health data.

So now that no one can legally disclose your PHI, no one can disprove your claim of a health condition precluding you from wearing a mask.

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31228 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:22 am to
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HIPAA covers the disclosure of PHI.


The number of people that understand HIPAA are lower than the number of people that understand the 1A.

You can legally be required to show a medical reason for not having a law apply to you. Consider the case of handicapped parking. You are required to show proof (ie hand tag or license plate) but you are only required to show the specific condition to your doctor.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:26 am to
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Stop politicizing a fricking 10sq inch of fabric.
Are you mentally challenged? Anything can become "political" when it is mandated by the government.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 8:27 am
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:28 am to
I think the other responses to this question answer it sufficiently. You're going to have to come up with another reason for your skyscreaming...snowflake
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94758 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:29 am to
batman: I BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT! THEY WOULD NEVER LIE!
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33872 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:31 am to
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By those who cannot medically tolerate wearing a face covering. No person declining to wear a face covering because of a medical condition shall be required to produce verifying medical documentation;



Hmmm, opening the doorway for service dogs requirements.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
25170 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:34 am to
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That’s not what HIPAA is.

It stops medical providers from sharing medical information without consent. Not grocery stores trying to stop the spread of a deadly disease



That is only part of HIPAA there is also a large section dealing with what a person of "authority" can and can't ask a person with regards to their health and healthcare. It absolutely prevents a grocery store from asking about a person health condition. No a grocery store as a private business can choose to make masks mandatory for entry and as long as they make "reasonable accommodations" for someone unable to comply due to health issues they are fine.

Accommodations in this case is the online shopping and curb side pick-up.


Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:35 am to
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The number of people that understand HIPAA are lower than the number of people that understand the 1A.



Why do you think this statement exists in the Davidson County ordinance?

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No person declining to wear a face covering because of a medical condition shall be required to produce verifying medical documentation;
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:36 am to
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Accommodations in this case is the online shopping and curb side pick-up.



And this will be challenged. Too much money to be made not to.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's the reality in our litigious society.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
25170 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:39 am to
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And this will be challenged. Too much money to be made not to.



It may be, but I think even with my strong opposition to masks the personal shopper route will cover the store simply because finding 12 jurors who are not Karens will be a challenge.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:43 am to
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It may be, but I think even with my strong opposition to masks the personal shopper route will cover the store simply because finding 12 jurors who are not Karens will be a challenge.


Oh it'll never go to court, just like most lawsuits don't. But the first big settlement and all other businesses will fall in line.

Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11723 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:24 am to
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Centinel


As someone who worked with covered entities for years, I have to say that your understanding of HIPAA is not just wrong but down right dumb.

It’s literally this type of idiocy that makes me laugh out loud when I see Karens or sovereign citizens try to use it in real life.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 9:27 am
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39046 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:17 am to
Again, who do they expect to police the mask policies? They are all wanting to either defund the police, protest their asses off to where the police are required to be there or fight the police, do they expect social workers are going to enforce the mask policies?
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