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Ex-Uber staffer says that the company had a unit dedicated to stealing trade secrets
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:48 pm
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A former Uber employee's description of spying on rivals and destroying evidence caused chaos in a San Francisco courtroom on Tuesday.
The trial between Uber and Waymo scheduled to begin next week has been delayed by order of the judge, who scolded Uber for withholding evidence, according to media reports.
The allegations of cloak-and-dagger tactics at Uber, the ride-hailing giant that has been accused of stealing trade secrets involving self-driving cars from Waymo, seemed straight out of a spy novel. And the events in court added more uncertainty into a high-profile lawsuit between two of the tech industry's most powerful players.
Judge William Alsup delayed the upcoming trial, originally scheduled for December 4, saying it would be a "huge injustice" to force Waymo to go to trial given the new evidence that surfaced in the case, according Reuters and other accounts from the hearing.
Lawyers for Waymo read a letter apparently written by former Uber security staffer Richard Jacobs, which detailed an internal unit at the company focused on stealing trade secrets.
Jacobs also testified in person on Tuesday, where he said that the surveillance team at Uber used “anonymous servers” separate Uber's main servers, according to Bloomberg. He described it as a system that actively deletes messages after a small delay so as to leave no trace.
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@GregBensinger
Ex-Uber employee Ric Jacobs details culture deeply rooted in secrecy, paranoia at Uber: disappearing messages, trainings to evade legal investigations, groups devoted to obtaining trade secrets
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@bizcarson
In Jacobs Letter, his attorney states that Marketplace Analytics team at Uber "“exists expressly for the purpose of acquiring trade secrets, codebase and competitive intelligence.”
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@kateconger
Waymo's lawyer, reading from the Jacobs letter, says that Uber also identified employees at other companies who might be willing to leak confidential information to them.
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@GregBensinger
Ex-Uber employee says Uber attorney trained employees on how to "impede, obstruct or influence" ongoing legal investigations, including use of ephemeral messages
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:52 pm to Street Hawk
I'm still not taking a cab
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:53 pm to Street Hawk
Uber sounds like a pretty scummy place lately 
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:54 pm to Street Hawk
Trade secrets? How to give somebody a ride? No wonder they're failing.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:56 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Uber sounds like a pretty scummy place lately
Still using Uber.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:56 pm to JuiceTerry
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Trade secrets? How to give somebody a ride? No wonder they're failing.
Right? Cabs are probably the simplest business transaction in the world. Here’s money. Take me here.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:03 am to The Pirate King
I was at Commanders a few nights ago and there must have been 5 cabs parked along the cemetery across the street sitting there - while multiple patrons waiting to catch an Uber or Lyft standing near the entrance. Who still uses cabs? Even my father who is not tech savvy at all uses Uber over catching a cab.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:38 am to ellishughtiger
I'd rather take a cab during Mardi Gras. Cab prices don' triple after the sun sets.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:02 am to DavidTheGnome
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Uber sounds like a pretty scummy place lately
They've kind of reached that google level of power where they can have all these kinds of stories they want and It's not gonna effect my use of their product
Posted on 11/29/17 at 5:30 am to Street Hawk
Corporate "espionage" is always a tricky duck. The really effective cats are always at the edge (or over) on breaking the law. To do it legally (can be done) requires a lot of resources that could, perhaps, be used elsewhere to better effect to stay competitive.
I'm thinking about becoming a consultant - this may be one of the areas we get into (advising on how to do it legally, ethically, and efficiently).
I'm thinking about becoming a consultant - this may be one of the areas we get into (advising on how to do it legally, ethically, and efficiently).
Posted on 11/29/17 at 6:19 am to The Pirate King
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quote: Trade secrets? How to give somebody a ride? No wonder they're failing.
Right? Cabs are probably the simplest business transaction in the world. Here’s money. Take me here.
Guarantee the shite they stole is the map and tracking stuff, probably from Google.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:31 am to CCTider
I’m on pied during Mardi Gras for the most part. Great way to burn those beer calories off is walking from the LGD to Calhoun multiple times.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:33 am to Street Hawk
it's people picking up people and driving them to another location. Wtf kinda trade secrets are in play here
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:34 am to CCTider
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I'd rather take a cab during Mardi Gras. Cab prices don' triple after the sun sets.
Uber doesn’t turn the meter off and charge ten bucks a head
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:34 am to Street Hawk
It was hilarious to see the uproar from cab drivers when ride sharing came here to Shreveport.... if you don;t want to go out of business, don't offer an inferior product.
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