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re: Everest Summit "Like A Zoo"

Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
didn't we do this a few weeks ago?
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
I’m almost never a fan of unions, but in this case I think one could do some good.

They need to form then go to the respective government and show them they should be the gatekeepers of Everest. Should be able to guarantee safety standards for both clients and the local people. Set minimum requirements for both climbing and guiding. Set safe maximums on numbers of permits issued.

It would, though, take several of the biggest guiding companies and a handful of today’s most established climbers to all sign on with the plan.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:31 pm to
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be able to guarantee safety standards for both clients and the local people.

I think part of the allure of the type A alpha appeal was the risk of your life to accomplish the climb?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:34 pm to
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Back in the day, it was hard to climb Mt Everest


What makes it so easy now and what’s the risk/reward???

I climb a mountain: okay cool

I died climbing a mountain and my body was left on said mountain to rot: not cool
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21675 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:34 pm to
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Climbers who made it out alive called the peak a “zoo,”


Or you can climb any number of 13 or 14ers in the Mountain West and probably only see a few other people.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12722 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:36 pm to
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think part of the allure of the type A alpha appeal was the risk of your life to accomplish the climb?

I agree with that. I meant that the “union” could make sure that those climbing are actually experienced enough and that their guides are top notch and not just fly-by-night group.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:38 pm to
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No lines on K2.

The only things on K2 are death and giant brass balls. The Pakistanis were like "frick it. Don't even name it and maybe it won't notice us.".
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10130 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:39 pm to
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What makes it so easy now and what’s the risk/reward???


It's just the increased demand for selfies.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:43 pm to
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I died climbing a mountain and my body was left on said mountain to rot


They don’t really rot up there so you’d have that going for you.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31139 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:47 pm to
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no way I'm not going to go full freak out mode watching my oxygen slowly diminish.


One of the issues is novice climbers don't regulate the O2 well. When you get stopped like that you need to cut you Os back to 1 liter per minute but many will leave their regulator at 3-4lpm because it feels so much better. The older but still most used 3L bottles have 720 liters of oxygen so that's 12 hours at 1lpm but many novices will suck them dry in 3 hours.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31139 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:49 pm to
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They don’t really rot up there so you’d have that going for you.


They literally freeze dry
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141093 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:50 pm to
Is Everest in Germany?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:51 pm to
Well obviously

It’s not even a climb anymore

The sherpas do all the work for the cash
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76060 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:53 pm to
Thanks!
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:54 pm to
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They don’t really rot up there so you’d have that going for you.


Sorry, I should have said decompose
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76060 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:54 pm to
I read this one a while back. It is just a crazy mess all the way around. Too many climbers too few climbing days.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 7:59 pm to
The Earth is a better place every time one of these attention whores bites the dust.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76060 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:00 pm to
I guess it is one thing to die in an effort to climb it, but an entirely different thing to die from the negligence of inconsiderate people and governments too dependent on tourism income. The overcrowding issue is entirely avoidable and just as deadly as other obstacles legit climbers face.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
9335 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:18 pm to
Climbing Everest with oxygen is for pussies.
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