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re: ERCOT urges users for conservation
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:56 pm to LemmyLives
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:56 pm to LemmyLives
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Drive by the coal plant on 71 in between Houston and Austin, and you'll see a pile of fuel (coal) 8 or 9 stories high for everyone to charge their Teslas off of.
right on cue
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Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:57 pm to Tony The Tiger
Here is the first part of the message
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Due to a high level of unexpected thermal generation outages and forecasted low wind generation, operating reserves for ERCOT are expected to be low in the afternoon and evening.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:58 pm to WB Davis
ERCOT themselves have mentioned the lack of generation of wind capabilities for the last week.
Are you actually telling people to trust the words of a third party, and not the actual source?
Are you actually telling people to trust the words of a third party, and not the actual source?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:59 pm to Dr RC
yeah that business model is call Economics 101, demand outpaces supply and price goes up until a balance is reached...that and the cost of capital to complete projects has become absurd under current administration.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:59 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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ERCOT themselves have mentioned the lack of generation of wind capabilities for the last week.
So it was forcasted, the thermal failures were not forecast.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:02 pm to Zappas Stache
Bruh. The thermal outage was today. The wind notice was there all week, and mid last week. Your defense of green energy is as thin as its reliability.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:03 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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The wind notice was there all week, and mid last week.
You're not that bright are you? If there weren't thermal outages, there would be no problems.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:06 pm to Tigrenutz
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become absurd under current administration.
I wish that were true, but it's not. Southern Energy was trying to get permits for the two additional reactors that are being fueled. 15 years ago.
Pertinent to Texans, Excelon submitted an application in 2010 to withdrawal it 2 years later, with no recorded action being taken.
quote:
On August 28, 2012, Exelon requested that the Victoria County Station early site permit application be withdrawn from the docket. By letter dated October 3, 2012, NRC has accepted the applicant's request and the application has been withdrawn.
Exelon Nuclear Texas Holdings, LLC (Exelon) submitted an application for an early site permit (ESP) for Victoria County Station on March 25, 2010.
Just like how we shouldn't drill in ANWR, because it'll take 10 years to get oil out of there.
If it hadn't have been for that ridiculous movie, Silkwood, and the nearly non event at 3 Mile Island (the other reactor was operating when I climbed out over it a decade ago) maybe we'd have more nukes.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:11 pm to LemmyLives
Designed in feature, not a bug.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:11 pm to Zappas Stache
Let me spell this out for you, you dumb frick.
LAST WEEK
It's hot.
Wind doesn't blow.
Power doesn't generate.
Ercot issues conservation notice.
TODAY
It's still hot.
Thermal power output decreases.
Wind still doesn't blow.
ERCOT maintains conservation notice.
It's not hard.
LAST WEEK
It's hot.
Wind doesn't blow.
Power doesn't generate.
Ercot issues conservation notice.
TODAY
It's still hot.
Thermal power output decreases.
Wind still doesn't blow.
ERCOT maintains conservation notice.
It's not hard.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:13 pm to LemmyLives
quote:
maybe we'd have more nukes.
The reason more nukes aren't being built is its economically unfeasible given the big investment $$$ needed and the long return time frame for the investment. Capital players want a return in a shorter amount of time.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:14 pm to thadcastle
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It amazes me that even in Texas we rely so heavily on green energy that its causes us power supply issues.
I’ve said it before, but the only thing red about Texas is the idea of Texas. It’s about as blue as they come.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:16 pm to thadcastle
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It amazes me that even in Texas we rely so heavily on green energy that its causes us power supply issues.
It's EPA mandated, not Texas. Remember during that great freeze and the Feds wouldn't even allow Texas to burn more fossil fuels to generate power when the green energy options were failing?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:20 pm to Zappas Stache
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big investment $$$ needed
When you have a decade of regulatory reviews before you break ground, of course. Why does it take ten years to review a design and ecological impact of a reactor design that has been operating in France or Japan for 20 years? Four countries operate breeder reactors, we are not one of them. We've sent Ukraine more than five times as much money in 18 months than we spent on breeder reactor research.
quote:
Capital players want a return in a shorter amount of time
Is that why Disney stock hasn't moved in a decade, yet the fund investors continue to push DEI?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:20 pm to AllDayEveryDay
quote:
LAST WEEK
It's hot.
Wind doesn't blow.
Power doesn't generate.
Ercot issues conservation notice.
Wind output is always diminished in the summer and ERCOT knows this. The conservation notice was issued because of extreme heat and increased demand due to ACs.
quote:
TODAY It's still hot. Thermal power output decreases. Wind still doesn't blow. ERCOT maintains conservation notice.
Its cooler this week so lower demand. The thermal power failures are why the notice was issued. Why can't thermal power be more reliable?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:20 pm to brass2mouth
The problem isn't that we have green energy, the problem is the states overall usage has increased because of population increase and that we are relying on the green energy as peak power. Ideally we need switchable reserves to cover the general outputs of our green capabilities to use a peak power (which to some degree we do, but people). We're getting there but it's slow.
Source: work in power gen.
Source: work in power gen.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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nuclear
I don't disagree with you but whose backyard do we put the spent fuel rods? All power generation has a downside of some type.
Coal - strip mining
Nuclear - fuel rods
Wind - Government drones get clobbered
Solar - too hot to live in that much sun.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:23 pm to thadcastle
frick DISNEY
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:26 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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The fact that this country isn’t 100% nuclear is just idiotic on every single level.
Even if we went nuclear we wouldn't invest in additional capacity unless it was profitable for the power company.
The source of the power isn't the issue when supply runs short.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:28 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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The thermal outage was today
Thermal outage is not a green/coal issue.
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