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re: EPA is looking to remove the idling stop requirement from cars

Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:20 am to
Posted by brickyard
Member since Jan 2007
579 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Can I get confirmation on this?

My habit is to hit the off button as soon as I crank my truck.


I jammed a dime in the button, so that it stays pushed in. Auto start/stop stays off this way all of the time and I don't have to turn it off each time i start my truck.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
3461 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:24 am to
A very rare thumbs up for the EPA.

If you have a Ford, you can disable the auto start/stop feature via FORSCAN. Do a search on the internet.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17397 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:24 am to
quote:

If you bought a car the last 5 years you’re value just cratered


I bought a Tesla so I was fricked before
Posted by Finnish
Member since Nov 2021
649 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:24 am to
quote:

What they don't know is i bought a wire/chip that goes between that button and the ECU and turns it off every time i start the car.


I’ve done the same…off the record.
$20 and 5 min for my sanity.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
111923 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:26 am to
quote:

it doesn't add any increased wear.

quote:

It maybe wears out a starter or something

Oh.... ok

quote:

I will say it does save a lot of gas in my wife's car.

No, it doesn't
Posted by McDonaldsBagMan
Member since Apr 2025
217 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:29 am to
quote:

The reduction in engine revolutions over the life of the engine should prolong the engine life but other ancillary devices like alternators, compressors, starters, etc may not like the added starts. Maybe it is harder on batteries?


It actually doesn't prolong the life of the engine. Every time you turn the engine off and then 30 seconds later activate the starter solenoid that turns the crankshaft flywheel, you're essentially forcing the engine RPMs to jump from a dead stop to 750-800 or so almost instantly. That is going to wear out both the starter and crankshaft/flywheel.

Wouldn't affect the compressor and alternator as much, but will definitely put stress on the serpentine belt.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86645 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:30 am to
Please do, it's dumb as shite anyway.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2069 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:31 am to
quote:

If you have a Ford, you can disable the auto start/stop feature via FORSCAN. Do a search on the internet.


Just purchased a Bronco and hate this feature, thanks!
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44142 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:31 am to
Now work on that automatic brake when using cruise control
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
14491 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:31 am to
quote:

If you bought a car the last 5 years you’re value just cratered
Unless you bought a '24 Kia Forte GT 6 speed manual which did not have that shitty feature included....which is one major reason why I bought that car. It is an absolute blast to drive.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25853 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:32 am to
It was the first thing I turned off when I bought my car last year.
Posted by Signal Soldier
30.411994,-91.183929
Member since Dec 2010
8467 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:35 am to
quote:

They need to create a module like the VCM muzzler/tuner for Honda that plugs into a harness right off the battery and disables it. There’s a way to hack it by removing part of the dashboard, but that’s too involved for many people.


I bought a cable off Amazon for 12 bucks and installed it under 30 seconds. Doesn't stop anymore and no more pushing the button.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
69111 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:37 am to
Of all the examples of the stupidity of government, the auto-stop “feature” has got to be in the top ten. Whoever thought this was a good idea is a complete moron who knows nothing about the workings of the internal combustion engine. And whoever approve the idea is even more stupid than the idiot who came up with this hare brained boondoggle.
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 8:38 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35635 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:39 am to
Regen bullshite in tractors next
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2190 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:39 am to
quote:

PSA to anyone with an F-150 or Expedition that is annoyed by this:

Open your driver's side door and look above where your left foot rests when driving. There's 3 plug-ins that are visible. Unplug the smallest. Best I can tell it controls the auto start/stop and trailer brakes. Did it 5 years ago, and have not had an issue since.


There is also a red connector plug on the positive post on battery of Fords that all you have to do is unplug it. Takes about 5 seconds. I did it on my wife's old expedition and multiple fleet trucks at work.
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 8:43 am
Posted by Deepwood
Member since Sep 2023
50 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:40 am to
Auto stop eliminator


Bought this three years ago. Haven’t pushed the button since.
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 8:41 am
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
8488 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:41 am to
That's putting a bandaid on the overall stupid bullshite that drives it, commonly known as CAFE standards.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21164 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:43 am to
My routine:

1. Get in car
2. Start car
3. Put seatbelt on
4. Turn this stupid arse feature off
5. Go on with my day
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 8:44 am
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
2803 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:44 am to
Right up there with the light bulbs that when they break you practically have to evacuate, and appliances and installations that have to run twice to function correctly.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
69111 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Regen bullshite in tractors next


Thankfully my responsibilities involve only undercarriage and GET, but I still hear about the nightmares of the regen systems. Faulty ard heads, sensors, etc., it’s a never ending list of problems.
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