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re: EO coming today requiring all Federal employees to get the "vaccine"
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:54 am to Sao
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:54 am to Sao
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tie off over a certain height,
There is value to me in making sure I don't fall from above certain heights
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protect their feet
There is value to me in making sure I don't break my toes/feet by a heavy object falling
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head and eyes
Sure as shite don't want anything messing with the one set of eyes or one brain I am given.
Catching a virus that I have almost 100% chance of surviving? Not really that comparable to protecting myself from those other serious injuries
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Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:54 am to Odysseus32
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I don't think there should be a mandate, but this isn't going the way of complete government control like some people suggest.
Yea slippery slopes aren't real or anything
Wait until you see Biden's 6 point plan today to see just how Marxist this administration is.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:54 am to upgrayedd
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I made a personal decision to get it. That's all that matters.
I think it's up to everyone else to make their own decisions as well and I support whatever decision they make. It's not your job to "protect" me and it's not my job to "protect" you, so I don't care what anyone else does.
Pay attention statists. This is the only way for an American to view things like this. If that confuses you or makes you mad, then it’s because you don’t understand what America is, or what it’s founded upon, or you simply don’t care, and that is a problem that nobody can fix.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:54 am to ell_13
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Vaccines "work" when they allow the immune system to learn to react appropriately to a virus THAT'S IN THE BODY! Vaccinated people get covid... vaccinated people are more likely to fight it off without symptoms. Viral load remains too low to cause issues. THAT is how a vaccine works. Spread is less likely. Sickness is less likely. But the virus still gets in the body. People are fricking retarded.
Then please explain the Flu vaccine, Mr. Dr. Your explanation pretty much works, but continue on about immunity, oh, and the general shut down of the world over a virus that kills only 0.005% of the weakest. Isn't that called "culling the herd"?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:54 am to stout
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And at the end of the day I can remove my PPE. I can't take the vaccine out of my body.
Such a stupid counterpoint attempt by him
Also, at the end of the day, when the employee breaks his toe because he wasn't wearing the required PPE, the company will still be liable for all the medical expenses and the incident will still go down as a recordable.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:54 am to kennypowers
quote:It would have been over a year ago had we just acted like normal fricking human beings.
Ok, so what's the answer to ending this scourge?
quote:Stop moving goal posts.
how do we get to the end of this?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:54 am to Astrosfan
Coast Guard told everyone a couple weeks ago to get the poke or you'll be discharged on Sept 18th. I know of at least 3 guardsmen with a combined 20+ years that are getting out if it comes to that.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:55 am to Odysseus32
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It's an FDA approved treatment.
COMIRNATY is fully FDA approved. It's not available on the market.
BioNTech-Pfizer is still under EUA. It is available and this is the Pfizer vaccine that people think is fully FDA approved.
There is a lot of confusion around this issue and it was purposely rolled out this way so it can be said the vaccine is fully approved and still maintain legal immunity from side effects.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:55 am to SDVTiger
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Why do you keep tripling down on your awful comparison Mao?
Good grief
I can't believe he thinks he has made a solid point and keeps going to that well. I thought he was smarter than that but I guess I gave him too much credit.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:55 am to scottfruget
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You mean the same agency that approved all the stuff that now has commercials seeking people for class action law suits cause they have now proven to be harmful after long term use?
You want them to bat 1.000? Sorry, but nothing in life is 100% If you don't want to take the vaccine, don't take it. But understand that there are consequences, right or wrong. Are you equipped to possibly lose your job (depending on the field) and be barred from air travel and certain restaurants? If you are, go crazy. If you're not, maybe look at your risk/reward chart once more.
I'm not for mandates. I think it should be your own choice. But I'm also not dumb enough to think this is the hill I die on.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:56 am to stout
But they're still going to flood illegals across the border and bus them to cities all over the country.
frick these pieces of shite.
frick these pieces of shite.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:56 am to kennypowers
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Reality is that if more of you mouth breathers would have gotten the shot to begin with we wouldn't need this.
I'm vaxed and totally disagree with this. this is the same as believing in "two weeks!...." data from local hospitals appears to suggest that you have a better chance of avoiding a hospital visit with the vax ; but hell, people my age had a good chance of avoiding that last year when the vax wasn't even an option.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:56 am to TxWadingFool
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Coast Guard told everyone a couple weeks ago to get the poke or you'll be discharged on Sept 18th. I know of at least 3 guardsmen with a combined 20+ years that are getting out if it comes to that.
I've heard they're talking about giving these people who refuse the vaccine dishonorable discharges. That's going to cause some extremely serious issues.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:57 am to liz18lsu
quote:Explain what? Different vaccines work slightly differently and are more effective than others. The flu vaccine was never very effective. The spike protein in Covid is what this vaccine is based on. That's not going away.
Then please explain the Flu vaccine
quote:What the frick are you talking about? I didn't say any of this. I was all for zero shutdowns or lockdowns and letting shite happen. Still am. That doesn't mean I'm going to pretend like this vaccine isn't effective. You'd be a retard to think it's not. I also don't think it should be mandated... anywhere for anything. You're arguing against things I've never said. Chill.
but continue on about immunity, oh, and the general shut down of the world over a virus that kills only 0.005% of the weakest. Isn't that called "culling the herd"?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:57 am to stout
frick Biden. I have the vaccine and am pro-vaccine overall, but it should be by choice.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:57 am to GumboPot
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COMIRNATY is fully FDA approved. It's not available on the market.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:58 am to Odysseus32
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I'm not for mandates. I think it should be your own choice. But I'm also not dumb enough to think this is the hill I die on.
But a mandate for something you don't want in your body, versus your pay, IS the hill...and a slippery one.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:58 am to GumboPot
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COMIRNATY is fully FDA approved. It's not available on the market.
BioNTech-Pfizer is still under EUA. It is available and this is the Pfizer vaccine that people think is fully FDA approved.
There is a lot of confusion around this issue and it was purposely rolled out this way so it can be said the vaccine is fully approved and still maintain legal immunity from side effects.
You wanna provide a source here?
Because straight from the FDA, unless my reading comprehension is just completely shot, the same vaccine is now being marketed as Comirnaty.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I can't find anything with any credibility that says that's the case.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:58 am to Earnest_P
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So you just don’t believe in freedom? Like you openly admit it?
As in freedom of choice? Federal gov is nothing but the employer here, they aren’t taking away your rights as a citizen. If you don’t want to get it you have the freedom to make the choice to find a job elsewhere.
You do understand that’s what freedom means right?
As said already, working for the DoD there’s already multiple things you HAVE to be vaccinated for for multiple assignments. This isn’t anything new.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:58 am to Odysseus32
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But understand that there are consequences, right or wrong. Are you equipped to possibly lose your job (depending on the field) and be barred from air travel and certain restaurants?
Jesus...
This attitude is the one they want you to have. Just lay down and take it.
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