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English: Is "you were here before me" correct?

Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:45 am
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:45 am
example:
That girl is fatter than I am.

We use the clause "than I am."

And we can modify it still further too:

That girl is fatter than I.

The main clause is unchanged, but the subordinate clause is shrunk to almost nothing: it's than I, with the verb am understood but not explicitly present.

Now here's where things get strange. Most people change that I to me:

That girl is fatter than me.


Many on the OT notice but refrain from correcting others, as the error has become commonplace.

So my question, is if "you were here before me" proper or should it be I as well?
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:46 am to
Me
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:47 am to
Pretty sure "before I" is grammatically correct because "was" is the understood verb. "You were here before I was."

ETA: I'm wrong. From another site:

quote:

You would say "He got there before I got there" because you need the "I" to fulfill the function of subject in the clause "I got there." You'd say "He got there before me,"because you need the object form, "me," as the object of the preposition "before." In the first sentence "before I got there" is an adverbial clause telling us when he got there. In the second sentence, "before" introduces a prepositional phrase acting as an adverb.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 9:50 am
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:47 am to
It's the internet, not a term paper.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12581 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:49 am to
Me don't know.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21045 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:51 am to
This seems like one of those harmless times where accepting the "incorrect" version is just easier and is 100x less pretentious sounding

I'd say go with either. That said, "could care less" will always drive me up a fricking wall.
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2334 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:10 am to
It's usually "I" if before the verb and "me" if after.

Guessing here: In your first example "am" is a second verb, so "I" is correct as the subject before the verb..?
Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:11 am to
you were here before me was here
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103806 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:11 am to
Who cares as long as someone knows what you mean.

The English language is certifiably retarded in some of its rules
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:14 am to
Ain’t reading none of that, irregarrdless I could care less
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22476 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:30 am to
you don't think you be here before me, but it do.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:32 am to
Didn’t read.

Enjoy my downvote.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:57 am to
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
38314 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:18 am to
quote:

That girl is fatter than me.



Need pics of the fat girl to make a determination...
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:24 am to
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
76146 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:27 am to
quote:

That girl is fatter than I am.
Eat less and exercise more, fatty.

PS: IWNHI
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:23 am to
Yes. English is the language of business around the world. There is only one main rule: Be understood.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17242 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:57 am to
It’s me. It’s the object, not the subject of the sentence.
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