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Engineering company designed system to convert CO2 into gasoline

Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:58 am
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:58 am
Friend just told me about this. Hopefully it can be put into practical use. World changer is so. Produce fuels, reduce CO2, less/zero reliance on foreign oil. I assume we would still need crude oil for the production of other oil-based products (lubricants, kerosene, plastics, etc)

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Scientists at a company part-owned by Bill Gates say they've found a cheap way to convert CO2 into gasoline

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Scientists discovered a new technique that pulls carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere, and converts it into liquid gasoline, diesel or jet fuel.

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A similar process could be used applied to trap greenhouse gases, reducing the amount of heat-trapping substances in the atmosphere


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Canadian clean energy company Carbon Engineering, in partnership with researchers from Harvard, used little more than limestone, hydrogen and air for the process, which can remove one metric ton of CO2 for as little as $94, the scientists say. It cleans up the environment, and produces eco-friendly liquid fuel at the same time.


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"Until now, research suggested it would cost $600 per ton to remove CO2 from the atmosphere using DAC technology, making it too expensive to be a feasible solution to removing legacy carbon at scale," David Keith, Harvard Professor and founder of Carbon Energy said in a statement. "We now have the data and engineering to prove that DAC can achieve costs below $100 per ton."


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The technique has been removing CO2 from the atmosphere since 2015 from a small pilot plant in Squamish, British Columbia. Carbon Engineering is seeking funding to build an industrial-scale version of the plant, which Keith told the Atlantic the company can complete by 2021.


CNBC Link
Posted by 50_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:10 am to
Truck nut stocks fall with the news.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5411 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:12 am to
Limestone producers finna eat?
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:12 am to
Um trees need CO2 to survive. This seems like a surefire way to kill off all plant life on Earth.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12346 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:13 am to
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they've found a cheap way to convert CO2 into gasoline


Then they should do it and make a fortune.

The laws of thermodynamics say that this is nonsense, though.

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The technique has been removing CO2 from the atmosphere since 2015


This is very different from making cheap gasoline. Coral reefs and plants are currently removing CO2 for free.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:13 am to
I was reading about this the other day. Assuming the tech is real, it would have so many barriers to the market. People would be killed. The US and Saudi govs would flip their shite. The military industrial complex would go insane. It won't happen.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72024 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:13 am to
Not that I don’t think this is great, but plants do thrive on CO2.

At what point does CO2 become a finite resource and falling CO2 becomes a problem?


Devil’s advocate...

Also, are they removing CO2 to create gas that makes CO2?

It feeds itself.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 10:15 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:14 am to
So we’re supposed to let millions of plants suffocate to death?
Posted by SCndaBR
BR
Member since Dec 2015
517 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:14 am to
The government will buy the rights, they will be killed, and we will pay corn farmers more to make more ethanol for worse gasoline than before. The cycle continues.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
39979 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:17 am to
According to Google, CO2 is 0.04% of the Earth's atmosphere or 400 ppm.

Doesn't seem like a lot to be sustainable forever.


1 metric tonne is 1000000g

1 PPM is 1 mg/L
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 10:22 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84610 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:18 am to
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I was reading about this the other day. Assuming the tech is real, it would have so many barriers to the market. People would be killed. The US and Saudi govs would flip their shite. The military industrial complex would go insane. It won't happen.


I don't know the economics of this, but I'd imagine the cost is still much more expensive than refining oil into gasoline.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
45081 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:22 am to
If this is legit and these things never are but if it is. All of those involved will suddenly start disappearing and dropping dead mysteriously.
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:23 am to
It doesn't say how much gasoline it creates. How much gas does that $94 process create?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
39979 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:23 am to


Hope baws like the cold...
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:25 am to
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The laws of thermodynamics say that this is nonsense, though.


I am curious which thermo laws you think are being broken here?
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
3484 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:26 am to
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The government will buy the rights, they will be killed


If the government does't buy it, big oil will.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:40 am to
Limestone quarry owners rejoice.

Someone care to spell out how much limestone goes into a gallon of gasoline?

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:44 am to
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World changer is so


I'll say. Maybe more precisely "world ender if so."

This war on CO2 is going to backfire so hard one day.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84610 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:46 am to
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If this is legit and these things never are but if it is. All of those involved will suddenly start disappearing and dropping dead mysteriously.


All of the science is legit, it's purely a cost thing.

Converting CO2 into a liquid fuel isn't science fiction.

Here is an article that explains the process in more detail
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3505 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:47 am to
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Um trees need CO2 to survive. This seems like a surefire way to kill off all plant life on Earth.


This is how the scenario in the movie The Hapening starts in real life. Of course it’s because of freaking Canadians.
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