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re: Engineering Career Advice - Mechanical, Chemical, Petroleum
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:47 pm to jcliv
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:47 pm to jcliv
Is oil and gas going to be used in the US as fuel 25 years from now. No way I would let him do petE. I’m a EE, and I tried to push my son toward ChemE, but he ended up as a EE as well, which is a great field. All good choices other than petroleum.
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 11:07 pm to Penrod
you do realize petroleum is used for more than just fuel
ever heard the words plastic or fertilizer
ever heard the words plastic or fertilizer
Posted on 8/15/19 at 11:12 pm to jcliv
My youngest is an Industrial Engineering major at Ms State. He will graduate in the summer of 2020 and was recently offered a job with IP in procurement. He went to all the career center events and what not at MSU. So I will tell you, what ever your son decides and even before he decides, career center/job fairs are his friend. Good luck.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:33 am to Thecoz
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you do realize petroleum is used for more than just fuel ever heard the words plastic or fertilizer
I do. About 15% of my net worth derives from that. Do you realize that 85% of the hydrocarbons mined in the US are used for fuels. If that goes substantially away it’s not unreasonable to believe that 85% of the petroleum engineering work will go away. Do you realize what happens to the price of a supplied service when its demand is reduced 85%? A kid is trying to make a career decision. I’m trying to give him an informed opinion that PetE is a risky decision.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:44 am to Permit
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You interested in making real money then get the easiest engr degree possible and go into technical sales.
Yea if you’re interested in hating your job, people hating you, and never doing anything of value in your career. Sure money is nice if you’re successful. A lot of unsuccessful technical sales people. But all of them have not done anything of real value in their careers. A career is about more than money. You gotta do that shite for at least 2-3 decades. Might as well do something fulfilling if you have the ability
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:47 am to jcliv
ME - Workhorse of Engineering world. In my line of work they will start out less than ChemE or EE but can have many, many career paths.
EE - Start out higher (higher demand). Have to LOVE it. A sociable EE can have an exceptional career.
ChemE - Highest starting pay (my industry). I've often thought if I were to do it again I may pursue this. Higher initial pay - Large pay future opportunities.
Cannot speak for PetE, but have a lot of friends who wouldn't do it again for flexibility reasons.
EE - Start out higher (higher demand). Have to LOVE it. A sociable EE can have an exceptional career.
ChemE - Highest starting pay (my industry). I've often thought if I were to do it again I may pursue this. Higher initial pay - Large pay future opportunities.
Cannot speak for PetE, but have a lot of friends who wouldn't do it again for flexibility reasons.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:50 am to BlackCoffeeKid
I’ve heard similar numbers recently for what you’re saying BCK. Go make a ton of money for a few years with a major in middle of nowhere or some shithole country. Then transfer out or get a job leveraging your experience with a major
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:50 am to GumboDave
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With the way date centers are taking over, the demand for electrical engineers is on the rise.
An electrical engineer wouldn't know what to do in a date center.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:56 am to hiltacular
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I would seriously consider an industrial engineering degree if that is an option.
Garbage. I’ve seen their curriculum and it’s crap, it’s not really engineering. Also start out very low, long hours, usually responsible for operators at consumer products manufacturing facilities (which are not nearly as qualified as O&G and chemicals operators, consumer products operators are glorified McDonald’s workers)
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:37 am to Tigris
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An electrical engineer wouldn't know what to do in a date center.
No but one that does CLI, has a CCNA, CISSP, and knows IPSec can certainly find a place there.
I like fricking with 5G radios too much atm though
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:38 am to Tigris
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With the way date centers are taking over, the demand for electrical engineers is on the rise.
An electrical engineer wouldn't know what to do in a date center.
But a fig farm...
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:50 am to Upperdecker
I have a B.S. in ChE and a masters in IE. It's a great support degree if you work in an operations role or have a business trajectory. Engineering management is a subfield of industrial engineering. But IE is terrible as a primary, backbone degree. Like someone said earlier in the thread it's spreadsheet engineering. All statistics, no physics. IE's at LSU always approach us at the career fair and talk about how they would be a good fit in the plant and expound on everything they could improve and you just have to put on a regretful face and tell them that they'll never be hired in a chemical plant. The two disciplines that are always desperate for opportunity over there are IE and PetE.
Coincidentally, OP, Clemson's IE program is probably their most nationally renowned and is heavily supported by the local automotive industry. Although it's not recruited heavily in LA, it's not a bad degree to have in SC.
Coincidentally, OP, Clemson's IE program is probably their most nationally renowned and is heavily supported by the local automotive industry. Although it's not recruited heavily in LA, it's not a bad degree to have in SC.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:59 am to Ross
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And that’s not something you derive it is literally the definition of the expression.
It's literally how every problem starts when defining the equation of motion in mechanics...but oh yea I forgot, you engineers took physics, 1 & 2...that's literally before it got real.
Force is a constant times the second derivative of position with respect to time. Right though, I'm 100% wrong.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:10 am to Gaston
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Force is a constant times the second derivative of position with respect to time. Right though, I'm 100% wrong.
Not after an engineer corrected you on it, you jackass.
Like I said yesterday: failure as a physicist.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 9:11 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:15 am to TigerstuckinMS
No engineer here even knew wtf I was talking about. Applied physics is a thing...you know into things like fracture mechanics...which I do everyday.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:19 am to Gaston
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No engineer here even knew wtf I was talking about.
Leave the thread already.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:21 am to LNCHBOX
K, I was right though.
About everything.
About everything.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:21 am to Gaston
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No engineer here even knew wtf I was talking about. Applied physics is a thing...you know into things like fracture mechanics...which I do everyday.
So using Fourier for DSP is just a simple equation to you?
Not every signal is pretty
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:22 am to Gaston
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was right though.
ETA: The only thing you've gotten right in this thread is this:
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I’m wrong, I just wish I had an e go erring degree is why I’m lashing out.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:24 am to 50_Tiger
I think DSP is the hardest topic in engineering, that shite blows my mind.
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