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re: Energy prices in California are going through the roof; blackouts imminent

Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73052 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:26 am to
you didn’t answer my question.
Posted by SouthernStyled
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:29 am to
Things you hate to see:

1. It
Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1851 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:29 am to
Per Wikipedia:
quote:

Though it was built less than a mile from the Shoreline fault line, which was not known to exist at the time of construction, and is located less than three miles from the Hosgri fault, a 2016 NRC probabilistic risk assessment of the plant, taking into account seismic risk, estimated the frequency of core damage at one instance per 7.6 million reactor years.


The other nuke plant, San Onofre, was shut down in 2013 after replacement steam generators failed. I think PG&E is broke/bankrupt so pouring more money into this plant is not an option.

You could repower these stations with gas-fired turbines and boilers and at least recoup your investment in the generating and distribution equipment (assuming the other economics pan out), but California is moving towards complete decarburization at breakneck speed, consequences be damned, so this option is DOA.

I read this article and the first thing that came to mind was the :Seinfeld That's a Shame: GIF, but if California exports this mindset like they do so many others, we're all in for a world of hurt.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:30 am to
Nergy is a national thing. We have multiple military bases in California as well as tmone of the countries largest ports.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3242 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:31 am to
Dont trust obviously left or right leaning media sources. Haven't heard this at all and there are many public charging stations.

I dont deny there are infrastructure issues nationwide and in Ca. We notoriously use other states resources while protecting our own, But both "news: sources in this thread are bullshite.
Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1851 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:32 am to
Sounds like Sophie's Choice II - do I charge my car or run my central AC?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73052 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:34 am to
so now ‘Nergy’ is a critical piece of infrastructure and should be a priority in state and federal tax spending?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73052 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:36 am to
jenn, for the record: what approved news sources would you recommend us listen to?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:37 am to
Remember when they were making fun of Texas?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24512 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:38 am to
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We are ready for every house to have 2 Teslas let me tell you




Oh frick. You just lit the bat signal for shel311.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11934 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:39 am to
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Even though the state’s tattered electric grid can barely meet existing demand – and more rolling blackouts are almost certain this summer – California continues to pile bad policy on top of bad policy. The state has banned the future sale of cars powered by internal combustion engines which will result in dramatic increases in electricity demand and will require, according to a recent report by the California Energy Commission, the installation of 1.2 million new EV charging stations by 2030. Bans on natural gas will further increase electricity demand. Cheered on by the Sierra Club, which is getting tens of millions of dollars from billionaire Michael Bloomberg, about 46 California communities have banned the use of natural gas in homes and businesses. Making the whole thing even more absurd, is that California is pledging to achieve these goals while closing the state’s last remaining nuclear power plant, the Diablo Canyon Power Plant, which by itself produces nearly 10% of all the juice consumed in California


I mean holy shite How fricking ignorant can you get
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:40 am to
Elect democrats
Pay the price!
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:40 am to
That isn’t just bad policy, it is insane policy.

When people talk about moving to EVs and Scruffy’s response revolves around our infrastructure being unable to support it, this is EXACTLY what he is talking about.

CA is merely a microcosm of the energy and energy distribution problems we will face with poor policies that put the cart before the horse.
Posted by belowmebama
Member since Jul 2008
7345 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:41 am to
Come on San Andreas fault.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:45 am to
Yeah both Nergy and energy should be considered federal infrastructure with states sharing responsibility. Just like pipelines, walls, airports, roads, water reservoirs, you know the things vital to America thriving. You could even throw in sattelites, radio and cell towers too but those should be independently operated. The more the stuff falls apart the easier it will be to invade our country.
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 11:24 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24512 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:49 am to
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Come on San Andreas fault.


. We should have t-shirts made that say "Team San Andreas fault".
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12272 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:49 am to
A special kind of stupid, closing nuclear plants when adding them is the answer.
Posted by dbowe82
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2009
349 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:50 am to
Sounds like they could really use some sustainable clean coal
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73052 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:52 am to
just centralized and federalize everything huh? you’d like that i bet. I’m also absolutely sure that would the most efficient way to get these issues resolved and future proofed
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:53 am to
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Who cares? frick em


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