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re: Energy and Transportation: FREE during the 1800s (*Before* Big Oil changed tGame)

Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:06 pm to
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So what are/were these "free" energy sources? * Compressed Air * Electric * Steam * Mercury * Aethereal (air)

How do you think an air compressor is powered?

How is electricity generated?

How is steam generated?

Mercury is very dangerous

How do you think equipment to harness air (wind) power is made?
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:09 pm to
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What age are we talking here? Because maps precede air travel by just a few years


There are *World* maps from the 1500-1600s.

Other than from aerial Balloons, how else does a surveyor like Mercator drawn entire continents and coastlines?
Posted by Metrybaw
Member since Apr 2022
227 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:13 pm to
For some reason liberator reminds me of the leprechaun in mobile who smoked too much crack and got stuck up in a tree.

Any of u baws remember the "leprechaun in mobile" youtube video?
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:15 pm to
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There’s a reason comments are turned off on that video. They’d likely be pointing out that air doesn’t compress itself to make free energy.


Huh? The comments aren't turned off; there are over 2000 comments on one vid and over 3000 on a follow up PART 2 vid (NOT posted).

Technically, NOTHING is "Free" -- not even our own breathing. Can't do that (or blow up a party balloon) unless we first buy food to EAT, then inhale /exhale. And before you know it, we've got to buy *more* food for the "energy" to chew food, breathe, inhale/exhale.

So YES -- to all of you who claim, "But...but....the energy isn't "FREE!!" -- you win.



At some point YOU have to conduct your *own* research on the dynamics of "FREE Energy" claimed instead of tossing a beer can on the lawn and trolling.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Any of u baws remember the "leprechaun in mobile" youtube video?


Is *this* the best you've got? "I watched a 'leprechaun in mobile video'!"





Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:20 pm to
C'mon. Tell me how to harness the aether. I wanna be a wizard!
Posted by GonzalesTiger2
Gonzales, LA
Member since Dec 2013
114 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:21 pm to
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So what are/were these "free" energy sources?
* Compressed Air
* Electric
* Steam
* Mercury
* Aethereal (air)


Except none of these are free.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:23 pm to
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There are *World* maps from the 1500-1600s.

Other than from aerial Balloons, how else does a surveyor like Mercator drawn entire continents and coastlines?
Measurements and mathematics, dipshit.


Hey what do you think of Mercator's globes?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134659 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:26 pm to
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Other than from aerial Balloons, how else does a surveyor like Mercator drawn entire continents and coastlines?


Standing on mountains? Being a decent cartographer and using calculations and reports?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134659 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:26 pm to
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C'mon. Tell me how to harness the aether. I wanna be a wizard!



Do you think mushrooms are magic because they have big floppy hats?
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:27 pm to
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You know, with your energy and passion you could probably make a real difference in the world if your mind and time weren't completely filled with nonsense all the time.


Discovering the real Truth about this world, the real history, archaeology, and science -- AND sharing it -- is never "nonsense". It's a blessing. I fully understand your position, believe it or not; but one person's "nonsense" is another's mind-blowing discovery.

Once you open that door, there is no returning. The moment it hits you -- "Whoa -- after all this time, THAT is the truth??" is a rush that never gets old. (I will also admit -- sometimes the new information is so stunningly startling at times I'm literally staggered.)

Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Standing on mountains? Being a decent cartographer and using calculations and reports?


How would your adjust for perspective?

The only way to get a decent perspective of layouts on the realm/earth is...via air.

Reading "reports" -- yes, baselines, info and maps were shared by other cartographers, but even so...

(I've got "OLDE MAPS" websites queued up for an eventual Thread subject. Love maps -- especially old ones.) Library of Congress has a nice section fwiw.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42308 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:32 pm to
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Or do you believe there were Land Surveyors back in the 1600s?


So it’s your assertion that cartographers didn’t exist before 1800?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:33 pm to
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Discovering the real Truth about this world, the real history, archaeology, and science -- AND sharing it -- is never "nonsense". It's a blessing. I fully understand your position, believe it or not; but one person's "nonsense" is another's mind-blowing discovery.

Once you open that door, there is no returning. The moment it hits you -- "Whoa -- after all this time, THAT is the truth??" is a rush that never gets old. (I will also admit -- sometimes the new information is so stunningly startling at times I'm literally staggered.)
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:33 pm to
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Surveying land to create maps was used as early as 1400 BC


Yeah, local maps.

But...of CONTINENTS? OCEANS? THE WORLD?

Not possible until some kind of long distance air flight could be used.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134659 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:35 pm to
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(I've got "OLDE MAPS" websites queued up for an eventual Thread subject. Love maps -- especially old ones.)



I also love olde maps. They are fascinating in what they got right…but let’s not think they didn’t get a lot wrong either.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:37 pm to
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Tell me you don't know how conservation of energy works without telling me you don't know how conservation of energy works.


This isn't a physics seminar. It's a forum (in which many lack the attention span or care not about details.)

Try reviewing some of the presented material -- some of your line of questioning may already be addressed. You may be surpised.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:37 pm to
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How would your adjust for perspective?
Measure and math.
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The only way to get a decent perspective of layouts on the realm/earth is...via air.
That's a good way to double-check your work, but it's absolutely not required to make an accurate map.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Trolling at this level is a manifestation of some type of mental illness.


So you asked a serious question then transitioned into the above hypocrisy / childishness.

Congrats.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 2:39 pm to
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I'll tell you what's inefficient - inputting constant energy to satellites to make them move in a way that gives the illusion that they are orbiting a globe earth.


No disagreement from me.

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