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re: Employer Docking Salary Pay If You Don't Clock In Or Out

Posted on 6/2/18 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 4:32 pm to
That's not legal
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 4:36 pm to
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I'm on salary and if I forget to clock in/out they will dock me. If I'm late or early they will dock me
They can certainly discipline you if There's a pattern of you doing this.

But it is illegal to not pay you for hours worked. Of course you may not be able to prove you worked these hours if you don't clock in, just saying as a policy that is not legal.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59575 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 4:37 pm to


Cody you still with that pretty little thing you showed us pics of?


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Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 4:46 pm to
I'm a teacher, we have to document everything. I have to clock in and out every day. They see the hours I work 50+ and the hours I leave on time and finish at 36. I've been docked once because I woke up late after my power went out.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 5:47 pm to
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Of course, they can start suspending you full days without pay for failure to follow workplace conduct rules and then they will no longer be engaged in illegal practices. (I assumed you were docked portions of a day).


but it says "or for unpaid disciplinary suspensions of one or more full days imposed in good faith for workplace conduct rule infractions."

suspensions != docking pay. suspension = at home without pay and without work
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23315 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 5:52 pm to
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Just curious here guys from a legal standpoint. If you earn commissions and are on salary, can an employer dock your pay x amount for each missed punch on the time clock?



The employer can set hours that you are required to be in the office and make you document them, AND reprimand or fire you for not adhering to them.

The employer can NOT alter your compensation for falling short of those hours. If they do, you are, in reality, a non-exempt employee and are entitled to compensation for every hour you are working, including work they expect you to do on nights and weekends. Unpaid time must be time completely free from duty.
This post was edited on 6/2/18 at 5:55 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 5:59 pm to
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but it says "or for unpaid disciplinary suspensions of one or more full days imposed in good faith for workplace conduct rule infractions."

suspensions != docking pay. suspension = at home without pay and without work

I'm aware of this. That's why I highlighted the pertinent part of the wall of text I got from the Dept. of Labor. This is also why I said "Of course, they can start suspending you full days without pay for failure to follow workplace conduct rules and then they will no longer be engaged in illegal practices."
This post was edited on 6/2/18 at 6:01 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 6:08 pm to
The only have to pay minimum wage. If you they are docking you and your wages fall below minimum wage you have a case if not then you should clock in on time.

They are trying to stop time clock fraud with that policy.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30481 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 9:50 pm to
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FLBooGoTigs1



Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:08 pm to
OP would do well to heed the advice of the Simian and TigerstuckinMS.

Then call the duty officer at the Wage/Hour Office of the DOL.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9189 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:08 pm to
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To ensure you're at work



Are you getting paid to be present in a seat or to complete your work? If my work is getting done then guess what...I’m at work. frick a time clock lol
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:23 pm to
But its unlikely they would do this because if he isnt at work his job isnt getting done like it should be
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25345 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:25 pm to
In the medical field you have all sorts of people on salary that clock in and out. And get docked if short 40 hours. They just dont get paid overtime.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:35 pm to
A salaried employee isn't paid OT, nor should he/she be required to "punch a clock". That's stupid. What's the point of being salaried? May as well be hourly and receive the benefit of getting OT.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
27042 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:39 pm to
I'm sure an attorney would love to review these practices for a class action suit.

You will probably want a different job lined up, though.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25345 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 6:32 am to
My 40 year argument.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 8:27 am to
There’s no such thing as being on salary but having to clock in and being fined if you don’t. You are either on salary, or not. The American legal system doesn’t recognize a hybrid model like your employer wants to establish. They can make you clock your hours and then FIRE you for not working enough, but they can’t dock your pay if you are an exempt employee. I worked with a lady who wrote insurance to cover employers for Wage & Hour issues like this. If you report them, the government will supoena the records, reclassify you as hourly, and you will be due a ton of back overtime pay. Of course, then they’ll fire you, but you’ll get a lot of walking away money.
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 8:37 am
Posted by LPgolfer
Member since Jul 2015
1093 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 9:07 am to
Why would a salary employee be clocking in?
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